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Hell Yeah. I love when P5 teams schedule a home and home. Can’t wait.
This would make a really good EVERY year end-of-season matchup for the two similar private colleges. It would add another SEC v ACC matchup to go along with UK/UL, USC/Clemson, UGa/GT, and UF/FSU, if played on the last weekend before conference championship games. (Hmmm, and if someone could get Mizzou/Kansas, and a XII-added Memphis against Tennessee on that last weekend….)
As a Vandy alum, there is no “private school rivalry” with Wake Forest. Vandy’s biggest rival is Tennessee (other historic rivals are Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Alabama, in that order). Wake is fine paired with Duke.
Memphis would be better paired with Arkansas than with Tennessee.
This was a last game of the season matchup for a few years a few years back.
Mr Vandy other than some success over the Black Bears you have no rivalry with the Vols or Tide. The ‘dores beat Alabama last in 1984 and have what 3 wins over the Vols in last 30 years.This is not Alabama/Auburn or Ohio State/Michigan by any stretch. Wake is a natural rival that you actually beat more often than you lose too..Congrats on getting a degree from one of the best schools in the country. You should thank Alabama. Auburn, Florida, LSU, Tennessee etc. for the big ass check Vandy gets each year from the SEC
Well, Mr Vandy, you MISSED the point. Playing an end-of-season game against an OOC helps set the stage for a more successful SEC championship game, as the winner of the SEC East Division would be known for two weeks, not just one. Of course, as others have pointed out, there’s no chance Vandy’s going to be in an SEC championship game anytime soon. Play your in-conference rival then the next-to-last week… if you find one.
Uga Hater- Vandy is Alabama’s third most played series (ahead of Auburn). Alabama has beaten Tennessee nine straight times, does that make that series less of a rivalry? I think not. Rivalries are about more than wins and losses (see Navy-Notre Dame). Plus Vandy’s rivalry with the teams I mentioned are more evenly matched and fiercely played in other sports (basketball, baseball). There is no “natural” rivalry with Wake. I’m not sure why you think it’s so “natural” just because they’re both academic schools. So we beat them more than we lose to them, so what? That does not make it a rivalry. History, geography, and competition make rivalries. As for the big check Vandy gets from the SEC (of which they contribute to in other sports they do well in), that money stays within the athletic department. It does not fund the academic side or my degree. FYI Vandy has the second biggest endowment fund in the SEC (second only to Texas A&M). So I can thank other alumni for the excellent education, not the SEC (the SEC can thank Vandy for being in the SEC, otherwise the SEC would get ZERO respect as to academics).
David- You’re saying I MISSED the point (of playing an end-of-season game against an OOC therefore helping set the stage for a more successful SEC championship game, as the winner of the SEC East Division would be known for two weeks, not just one)??? So under this theory, Alabama-Auburn should be played second-to-last week of regular season, along with Ole Miss-Mississippi St., Ohio St.-Michigan, and other rivalries. Because for some reason a conference championship game is more likely to be successful if we know who’s in it two weeks prior instead of one week prior? No wonder I missed the point, it makes no sense!! Ending the season with a meaningful game is what makes the most sense! Vandy and Tennessee have ended the season against each other going back to the 1920s (except for 2002-2013 where it was the second-to-last game, which was at Vandy’s request so that students could attend the game before leaving for Thanksgiving break; in 2009 it was the last game but on the second-to-last week).
If anything, having a meaningful game and/or a fierce rival on the last week is more exciting. How great would it be for a crappy Auburn team to beat an undefeated Alabama team in the last week, knocking them out of the SEC Championship game?
Say what you guys want, but UT-Vandy on rivalry week is here to stay, and Vandy-Wake is nothing more than just another game (btw the six or so years it was played at end of season did nothing to help foster a rivalry).
Personally, I’d love it if UGa closed with Tennessee every year. Lots of bad blood with the Vols and spills over into recruiting too. Tech is getting pretty boring.
I would love for Uga to cease football operations but thats just me
Is the deacon napping in that photo? He probably will be when watching those non-conference games.
not even sure those games are ESPN3 worthy
sad thing is Wake will lose at least 2 of those OOC games
Looks like a 5-7 schedule to me
Wake, living up to its reputation as “Duke Light”.
I love how Wellman bought five “buy games” and then made this statement:
“The financial guarantees that non-conference opponents are receiving today for ‘buy games’ have doubled and tripled from just a few years ago. Therefore, it is more realistic to play a home- and- away series against quality opponents than to ‘buy’ one-time games.”
Air Force and NIU are return trips from deals in the late 90’s early 00’s where those schools have pushed back as far as they could. Glad they’re finally confirmed.
Agreed on Air Force but I think the WFU-NIU 2001-2002 home and home was complete.
It is a good thing they at least played in 1 Orange Bowl (2006), because the above scheduling is a joke. So the only team they are playing from a P5 conference in the next 11 years is Vanderbilt. This is why ACC Football is a joke.
Wake also has the following previously announced games from 2017 on:
– Notre Dame in 2017, 2018, 2020, and 2023.
– UNC in non-conference games in 2019 and 2021.
– Ole Miss in 2024 and 2025.
– Purdue in 2026 and 2027.
Having a conference opponent as a non-conference game is a joke to me. I’m willing to bet both UNC and Wake Forest won’t be competing for a title when they play. The ACC is losing creditability for letting that happen.
For a top academic institution like Wake this is a very good schedule … Its exactly who they should be playing … Nice job … And Coach Clawson is going to have the Deacs playing good in a couple of years … I see a bunch of bowl seasons here … Nice scheduling !!!
East Carolina … nuff said …
It’s been way too long since ECU/WFU played. I’m with you.
Also, note the ACC is not counting Army as P5… unlike the lolSEC which counts them.
Haha, You’re so funny… not. Are there actually any SEC teams that have Army on their future schedules???
Actually what “StrickDeac” wrote is wrong, at least as it concerns NIU. It was not NIU pushing the game back but rather a very scared Wake Forest team.
Wake was hoping to “ride out the wave” on NIU’s “run” but it turns out that NIU isn’t going anywhere and is in fact only getting stronger the longer they wait. So they finally decided to “bite the bullet” and take their beating like men.
KUDOS to you, Deacons.
ACC Football is a joke I mean why in the he’ll would you schedule a team in your conference as a non conference game! And furthermore, not only Wake but all the ACC schools did a sorry job of scheduling in the future if they want to overpower the other P5 schools! The ACC should just stick to the sport they are good at and that’s Basketball not Football!
some people are sick
It is nice to see a meaningless game between 2 has beens (or never was) scheduled this far in advance. Has ESPN signed on yet to pick up this blockbuster?
Hey clueless. Not scheduling games in advance is why the SEC yearly plays the least P5’s, It’s why more than half of the vaunted ..lol..SEC west played no P5’s last year. It’s why Bama is always crying we can’t find a game..it’s b/c they wait to 1 o or 2 years in advance when by then everybody has already completed their P5 scheduling/
“SEC West played no P5’s last year.” What? W.Virginia, Wisconsin, K-State, Indiana & Texas Tech are teams the SEC played last year.
schoup is right on in regards to scheduling in advance. I give Wake and Purdue credit for scheduling this P5 vs. P5 match-up. Who knows how good or bad they’ll be in those years, but at least they’re scheduling the appropriate match-ups. And please don’t say Purdue has never matter, I’m sure they’re a few quarterbacks in the NFL that wouldn’t want to hear that (i.e. Brees, of today and Greise of yesterday, plus others). The SEC has plenty of opportunities to make scheduling match-ups, a team like Kentucky can perhaps schedule a Minnesota in out years or something like that,it may not seem like a big deal, but would be in a proper direction. The SEC has got to step up, I know there’s the fear of not getting enough “bowl” teams in due to wins, but,,,
I agree Billy, in my opinion Kentucky should keep Louisville as a rivalry game every year as they are playing them continuously now. Kentucky vs Minnesota sounds like an awesome match-up due to the fact both teams are not the “best” when it comes to football, no offense to Gopher or Wildcat fans.
Thanks day, appreciate it. Here’s another interesting fact to take in.
If you look at just the B1G and the SEC in 2016 and 2017 for non-conference scheduling here is further evidence how behind the SEC is. The B1G in 2016 has all 42 or their 42 NC games already scheduled (100%), in 2017 the B1G has 36 or their 42 NC games scheduled (86%). And now for the SEC, in 2016 the SEC has 43 of their 56 NC games scheduled (77%) and for 2017 the SEC has only 31 of their 56 NC games scheduled (55%). These two conferences are apparently playing the same system?
Some people may think the 2017 season is way out there, but it isn’t. The 2017 kick-off for college football is only 30 months away and the proper scheduling should have already started. Most often, bad planning leads to bad excuses, and the SC excuse no P5 teams will play us is a crook.
Hey by the way, I’ll continue to give LSU credit. They are one of the few SEC schools that most often schedules ahead and properly. They’re the only SEC to have both their 2016 and 2017 NC schedule set to this point. Go Tigers!!!
Try reading comprehension.
The B10 went on scheduling spree in the future when they decided to go to 9 games. When you have 9 games some years you have 5 home games and some 4 in conference. You have to plan you OOC out in advance and carefully to make sure you play your P5 OOC at home in years you have 4 conf home games. Many programs don’t want to play 6 away games..5 in conference and 1 OOC. Also, with phasing out FCS they have to plan more b/c getting a FCS games late is easy, as some FCS schools sometimes will cancel a game vs another FCS to get a pay day. The B10 also has gone to scheduling more midmajors as away games, some in oure home and home, some as 2 for 1’s
schoup said…., You’re spot on. Agree with what you have said. As you have said, The B10 has done a good job of planning and scheduling ahead with some vision. Whereas The SEC apparently lacks that skill of vision in scheduling future years. I know it may read as though I’m negative on The SEC, but it’s truly only with their lack of comparable scheduling to their so-called peer conferences. When The SEC as a whole starts and continues to schedule a competitive schedule I’ll back off.
And when they play each other, they still will be irrelevant
It’s funny how you know what recruits they will have 11 years from now. I’m sure you have the 6 thru 9 yr old pop warner leagues scouted and where those kids will go.
I think u-usa schools should play more meac swac and accept team