Another neutral-site game. I got to be honest, I’m sick of this stuff, especially from the SEC, who seems to be the biggest user/abuser of these match-ups. Why can’t you just play a home-and-home match-up? That’s what college football is all about. Are you that desperate to have an easier win by avoiding a road game? I know Texas Tech is also to blame, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they couldn’t get a home-and-home with Ole Miss.
Isn’t this better than Ole Miss vs. Lamar or Texas Texas Tech vs. Alcorn State? Man take what you can get.
You may of not noticed but the game is in TEXAS. How is it easier win for Ole Miss playing in the state of Texas against Texas Tech? Now that is home field advantage for the Red Raiders, just another excuse to bash the SEC for no reason & of course blame it on the Rebels (sneaking suspicion)……come on, really?
Day, sir, what you don’t seem to understand is that the state of Texas is gigantic. While it may be the same state that TTU is in, Houston is still over 8 hours away from Lubbock and only 30-45 minutes closer than Oxford. Houston is not exactly a TTU hotbed, it goes TAMU, UT, UH, and then everyone else.
I understand how big the state of Texas is, my point is pointing the falseness of making comments like ” Are you that desperate to have an easier win by avoiding a road game? ” How is that an easier win?
“Another neutral-site game. I got to be honest, I’m sick of this stuff, especially from the SEC, who seems to be the biggest user/abuser of these match-ups”
There are 20 neutral site games this year, SEC has 7 of them, one reason is because how popular the SEC is in football but the other neutral site games have nothing to do with SEC, so just don’t watch them I guess.
Why can’t you just play a home-and-home match-up?
Because there is a lot of money in neutral site games plus they’re are easier to schedule & bring fans that pay money to come see them. Big cities love them!
Plus the same people that complain about not having H/n/H don’t even go both games so what’s the point of complaining about an event you are not even going to participate in?
” I know Texas Tech is also to blame, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they couldn’t get a home-and-home with Ole Miss.”
lol…..I luv this one because it says, well, the SEC has a sneaking way of making these games happen. Like TT was going to say NO to a large pay check. Or the city of Houston said, “no, we don’t want more money poring into our city but we will take it if we have too.”
The deal is TT & Ole Miss have a chance to make a lot of money no matter where the game is played, btw, Ole Miss is playing in Orlando this year against FSU, I have heard no complaints from any Rebel fans about having to drive or fly to Florida where they will be out numbered by Seminole fans. Ole Miss is just happy to be there & will enjoy the paycheck plus should have fun in Orlando & who knows, may pick up a win as well.
These “neutral” site games would not be a problem is you played either A.) another power 5 game, or B.) Another conference game.
However, you would rather play Little Sister of the Poor 3 times a year.
Don’t lump all SEC schools together. Auburn is doing a neutral site game with Oregon but they have home and homes with Clemson, Cal and Penn State scheduled.
Auburn could have chosen to do a home-and-home with Oregon in 2018-19 but took the easy way out, avoiding playing a home-and-home in Autzen. Just like Texas A&M and Georgia did. At least Auburn didn’t cancel on Oregon. So Auburn is still in search of a P5 OOC game in 2018. Who are the Tigers going to schedule? Not many choices left out there.
Auburn took the easy road out? Yet the’re are still traveling to California & Pennsylvania , that is not an easy road
So down to Auburn, Vandy and Arkansas as the three final P5 programs, with openings on their 2018 schedule, who have yet to schedule a OOC game versus another P5 program in 2018. So are these three going to schedule each other as non-conference games as Wake Forest and North Carolina have done for 2019? Or just schedule ULL and obtain a waiver from the SEC.
Well, Arkansas was set until Michigan dropped us a month ago.
Auburn & Vandy will play each other in a “non”conference game. Arkansas will get a waiver since Michigan dumped them so late (they play both in the regular season so the non-conference conference game wouldn’t work for them)
As a lifelong Rebel fan I have been waiting 40 years for us to play a PAC 12 or BIG 10 team. Ole Miss has done the BIG 12 to death between home and home series with TX Tech, MO, and TX as well as bowl games against OK, OK State, Texas Tech, & TCU. Not to mention Nebraska when they were in the BIG 12. There must be some hidden rule in our athletic department prohibiting us from playing schools on the west coast. Non-conference home and home series are what makes college football great. We should be playing USC, UCLA, Ohio State, or Michigan State in home and home series. I’m a big fan of Ross Bjork but he totally dropped the ball on this neutral site game with TX Tech
I’m right there with you, Mitch. Who wouldn’t love to see those home and home match-ups? USC played home and homes with Arkansas and Auburn in the 2000s. Those were great games. (But maybe the fact that we dominated each match-up while going 4-0 is why you don’t do schedule teams like us anymore.) However, I think the SEC AD’s, Coaches and the SEC Commissioner care more about the easiest path to the College Football Playoff rather than having the most fair and balanced path to the CFP… And people wonder why fans chant “SEC Bias.”
Sure,go back almost 20yrs & complain about how the SEC does not want to play teams like USC (btw Bama plays them in less then a month). I don’t really think the SEC teams are worried about teams like USC these days. The only people that chant SEC bias is people with to much time on their hands, I rather just enjoy the games & once again. Neutral site games are very popular & they just keep building, they have not taken over h/n/h, just added more excitement to the game.
People forget teams like Ohio State canceling a series with Georgia and Tennessee or Michigan who canceled a series with Arkansas.
Happens all the time…
I have a feeling the people who think this is an SEC problem are only allowed to write in crayon and use a kiddie spoon.
They don’t forget, they just don’t bring it up & if they have to its all about how the SEC does it all the time & you are correct, it happens all the time among ALL conferences.
Joe and Day,
When the SEC does it, they replace the games with scrub Sunbelt and FCS games. When any other conference does it, they replace the games with another one just like it… Stupid argument.
Not true, Bama cancelled the game with Michigan St & filled it it with USC & FSU.
They play only 1, ONE, JUST ONE Power 5 game!!!! They play just 8 conference games!
Historically, there was great equality in college football up until 2006 when college football expanded from 11 games to 12 games. Whereas the Pac 12 (at the time the Pac 10) expanded to 9 conference games, the other conferences stayed at 8 conferences game. In the case of the SEC, they added an extra cupcake game, which is what no other conference did. (You can make the argument that the ACC did too, but there OOC scheduling is harder. The Big 10 on the other hand had a way stronger OOC schedule). On top of all that, the FCS games, which were not often played before 2006, did not count every year to the bowl requirement. Now it does? Why? There should be no reason why a team that went 2-6 in conference games should go to a bowl game just because they went 4-0 against a very weak OOC schedule.
I’m not trying to hate on the SEC. That’s what I want SEC fans to know. However, I want there to be greater schedule balance in the Power 5 conferences. Yes, I understand that the SEC has been up-and-down better than the ACC and Big 10. But what needs to happen in this CFP era so that we get the right teams in the playoff is each team needs to play:
1.) 10 Power 5 games. (I prefer everyone plays 9 conference games and minimum 1 P5 OOC game.)
2.) A championship game.
Only when each P5 conference is put on equal footing will we truly know who deserves to be in the finals.
P.S. ESPN’s SoS metric is so ridiculous. It’s not an accurate description of toughness of schedule. How can a conference (SEC) that has the easiest OOC schedule (which includes 4 OOC games) have the toughest SoS overall? I know! It’s because they have an all but guaranteed 7 more wins by playing 1 less conference game!
I fully agree that home-and-home games at campus stadiums is what makes college football great.
Mississippi St played Oregon in a home and home series in 2003-02. Bulldogs lost both games. So Rebels don’t want to come to Autzen. Just like the Razorbacks don’t want to come to Autzen, just like…
Where is this “Arkansas doesn’t want to come to Autzen” narrative coming from? We only had openings in 2018-19 come up about a month ago. And afaik, neither AD brought up the idea. Some of us fans did.
So what’s Ol Miss going to do to fill their 2017 schedule opening?
For 2017, seven programs still need to schedule an additional FBS opponent:
Florida St*, Missi, Tulane*, San Jose St, FIU*, ULL and Troy
(*Florida St, Tulane and FIU still have two games to schedule in 2017.)
Of course they ALL want home games.
And Arizona is still without a P5 OOC opponent but appears they have not been attempting to schedule one (Wildcats have been consistently purposely scheduling weak).
In 2017 Fresno St, San Diego St, Hawaii, San Jose St and BYU can all play an extra game (Hawaii exemption). But none wish to, as it would take away their only bye game (a valuable rarity).
So in 2017 maybe end up with:
Tulane@Missi (or in Superdome?)
San Jose St@Arizona
Florida doesn’t prefer to play FCS programs and instead typically schedules an additional G5 opponent. And in 2017 I suspect Florida St wants do the same.
Then expect TCU, Arkansas, Kentucky, Miami-FL, Syracuse, Air Force, UNLV, Tulane, and FIU to schedule a game versus a FCS opponent, as they all want home games.
West Michigan, Akron, Ball State, ULM and Coastal Carolina will also likely opt to play FCS opponent as well, as they all want home games.
Let’s be clear, Florida didn’t decide they prefer not to play FCS programs until they lost to Georgia Southern a couple of years ago. Before that they scheduled them yearly like the rest of the SEC.
This is a great match-up & we all should really enjoy it in stead of complaining about would’ve should’ve could’ve about a home n home & what could of been. The deal was made & both these teams will be receiving a nice little pay check. I’m happy for both teams.
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The bigger question is what are the Ducks going to do about 2018, after Texas A&M pulled a fast one and cancelled the home-and-home with Oregon, leaving the Ducks in a scheduling bind. This follows Kansas St and Georgia also cancelling series with the Ducks. Good to see Michigan St, Ohio St, Nebraska and Virginia are not afraid of visiting Autzen.
I’m sure Central Michigan would be interested, they already travel to OK State and MSU and have a home game against Kansas. $$$
But in reality Western Michigan should jump on it, they only have 1 OOC game for 2018 announced.
Shep are you trolling or just didn’t look that Oregon already is paying Bowling Green for a guarantee game in 2018?
The Ducks need a P5 replacement for 2018. But the Ducks could go with scheduling BYU or a MWC program needing 2018 games (UCF, San Jose St, Utah St, UNLV, New Mexico) but most are in need of home games. I suspect the Ducks will end up playing Utah State Aggies, if a series with Arkansas cannot be agreed upon.
I’ve lost all respect for the Texas A&M Aggies program for putting Oregon in such a scheduling bind and impacting Oregon’s 2018 strength of schedule.
Auburn, Arkansas, Ol Miss, Vanderbilt and Texas Tech still need a Power 5 OOC opponent in 2018. So maybe the Razorbacks, Rebels or Commodores will be playing the Ducks in 2018? Ducks and Razorbacks both need P5 OOC opponents in 2018 & 2022.
I understand there are people working on trying to get an Auburn v. Oregon rematch for 2018. As an Auburn alum, I’d be glad to see that, even if it means we need to go to Autzen, and have Oregon visit Jordan Hare down the road.
Texas A&M cancelled the 2018 & 2019 games with Oregon. The Ducks have already filled the vacated 2019 slot with a so-called ‘neutral’ game against Auburn in Arlington. The Ducks played LSU in Arlington several years back. (Too bad these programs decline to play a game at Autzen).
Oregon does not want to schedule neutral (road) games in back to back seasons. Rather wants to schedule a home-and home series with a Power 5 program, or BYU. However the Cougars already have six road games scheduled for 2018 and are already scheduled to come to Autzen in 2022 (a game which I suspect will be cancelled when BYU is chosen to join the B12).
So hoping for Oregon-Arkansas home-and-home for 2018 & 2023. If not maybe a series against Central Florida, which would match coach Helfrich against ex-Duck OC Scott Frost. But I don’t think the Ducks or Helfrich want to do that so soon in 2018.
The Ducks need to start holding these higher profile programs, who sign home-and-home agreements, to the cancellation clauses, rather then letting them off the hook for free as Oregon has been doing. Otherwise don’t waste the time scheduling games with SEC programs who refuse to honor their word. Rather Oregon should focus on scheduling B1G and B12 programs who don’t have a history of cancelling. Besides an Oregon-Arkansas series, hoping for future series with Oklahoma, Okla St, Wisconsin, and rematch with TCU.
I luv this comment you made,
“Otherwise don’t waste the time scheduling games with SEC programs who refuse to honor their word. Rather Oregon should focus on scheduling B1G and B12 programs who don’t have a history of cancelling.”
Meanwhile Michigan just cancelled & bought out the series with Arkansas, that is why the Hogz have an opening for 2018, its just not the SEC that cancels games, you see.
K-State also cancelled the series with Oregon, so now you have a BIG & Big-12 team that did not honor their words. All teams & conferences do it, not just the SEC.
Maybe the Ducks are awaiting the result of the Cal game in Australia, and are contemplating scheduling a 2018 game down under? But that would mean “neutral site’ games two seasons in a row, impacting Oregon’s home schedule.
I was wondering about an overseas game. I know the conference voiced some interest in China. Maybe a game there in 2018.
Tennessee, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota also were programs willing to play in Autzen. So kudos to the Vols, Wolverines, Spartans, Buckeyes, Huskers, Badgers, Hawkeyes, Gophers, Cavaliers, Red Raiders, BYU Cougars,
Sooners and Horns, you owe the Ducks a game or two.
Texas A&M Aggie fans, how are those ‘ladies’ clinics faring?
Sooners had quite a memorable game in Autumn. Doubt they’d want to return. At least not with Pac12 refs.
Damn auto correct. Typed Autzen not autumn.
Wasn’t saying all SEC teams don’t honor their contracts, or that all B12 and B1G teams do. I was saying some of the larger programs from those conferences often break agreements and I was expressing appreciation to those who don’t do that very often. The point is Oregon allowed Texas A&M, Kansas St, and Georgia to cancel series at the last moment AND did not enforce the cancellation guarantee. So Oregon ends up scrambling to fill their schedule, resulting in a negative effect on the strength of schedule and to the detriment of of the home schedule negatively impacting the season ticket buyer experience. That is why Oregon ended up scheduling both LSU and Auburn in Arlington, which would not have happened if the Ducks would have enforced the cancellation guarantee as they would have the funds to entice another P5 major to visit Autzen.
So I say to Oregon, just lower the risk of these scheduling fiascos and instead focus scheduling the middle/lower tier P5 programs and enforce the cancellation clause. And conversely Oregon should honor their commitments and not put other programs at risk. Oregon is visiting Wyoming soon where the Ducks could just have well cancelled on the Cowboys. I respect that.
Mason, I here ya on the Oklahoma game. After further review you are probably right. All conferences have homie officiating. However I recall Oregon in the 70’s visiting Oklahoma for a couple games (not home and homes), losing each time by 50 or 60 points. Talk about ouch! But it is a new decade now ;-).
Hey Razorbacks. Here’s a gift for you.
Oregon needs a P5 opponent for 2018 & 2022. Then schedule a home-and-home with Minnesota or Kansas in 2019 & 2020 or a neutral site game with Kansas in Kansas City in20 19. And neutral site game in 2020 with Oklahoma, Nebraska, North Carolina, Virginia or Northwestern. There are choices available so you don’t need to ask the SEC for a waiver.
And what happened to the idea for an Ark-Baylor neutral site game in Houston for 2020. Instead Baylor scheduled down to play Rice in Houston, and thus will not have a P5 OOC game in 2020. Baylor reverting back to their old scheduling ways.
By then, it should be a conference matchup. :D
Really great scheduling by the Rams in the coming seasons. Hopefully the Big XII will give them a look.
It would be really cool if the BigXII added CSU and either Cincinnati or Memphis (or even Boise St.) to the conference and hosted a championship game. If that happened the Colorado and CSU match-up would get more attention nationally being a P5 ooc game and neither would have to pick up another P5 ooc match-up unless they wanted to. I think TT vs CSU would be a great conference rivalry especially within the same division.
Yes all the game
Glad to see this kind or scheduling by the Wolfpack! Improves the schedule. Shame it isn’t until 2018 – 22028! Would like to see this from 2017!
The UConn games could be affected by potential ACC expansion. If they and Cincinnati are added to the ACC soon, not sure if NCSU and UConn keep the non-conference series though they would be in separate football divisions.
Who is the Rocket Scientist that decided to rent out Jerry World to play the worst team in teh Big 12?
I get that you’re going to play KU, its on the schedule can’t really trade them in for, say,…a team with a winning record. But somebody please tell me Tech isn’t giving up ticket sales and paying rent for Jerry World to play a world class L O S E R.
Somebody please tell me Tech isn’t intentionally losing money on this game….
TT plays at the Jones AT&T Stadium in Lubbock Texas. That is where the KU-TT game will be played. I anticipate an audience of 10s
Did the UT games garner that terrible of ratings that they’re getting bumped from the (somewhat recent) traditional Thanksgiving evening slot?
Lots of factors going into this, to be sure. For one, yeah, Texas hasn’t been at their best so it wasn’t the ideal time to try to “amend” a tradition. Plus, I’m not sure the flipping back-and-forth between Tech and TCU and having it ON Thanksgiving is working that well anyway. Now that (former UT athletic director) Patterson is gone, I could see the administration seeing the reality of the situation: it worked well when you hosted a game every other year against a rival, but hosting the game EVERY year? As a Texas alum and fan, I’ve had to go from a situation where I could alternate between hosting Thanksgiving in Austin and attending the game and then following up with traveling to see other family and watching on TV… to a situation where I either miss half the games or piss off my family from ducking a family holiday to go to the game every year. I’d imagine that lots of the students, alumni, fans, and even the university and stadium staff are facing the same thing. So, personally, I don’t know if UT was going to argue with this too much. It would be far more ideal if the game was in Austin on thanksgiving semi-annually, but TCU and Tech are both even less prepared to host the game on turkey day.
Maybe it will be an every-other-year thing now…? But as you pointed out, even when we were playing A&M the game had often been played on black Friday…
I went to the 2009 game at A&M when I went to SHSU, I had a great time – but I am also a native Metro Detroiter, and the Lions game is of course a yearly tradition. I think something like that needs more time for people to become accustomed to, or a better time slot. With the Lions always playing the early game it worked out well if we attended the game and then did a family function, I can see how the evening UT slot made that more difficult.
Tech would get a 5pm kickoff on Sept 29 against Kansas. This seems really positive since they had no night games at home in 2015. All good right?