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Seems like the worst of the P5s are playing each other. (Apologies to Kansas-haters.)
8-10 years ago Dook was a bottom 10 1-A…….no more…..I’d put them between 45-55 on the 1-A chart.
Duke & Northwestern have gotten better over the years.
There should be some kind of rotating series among Duke, NW, Stanford, and Vanderbilt.
They pretty much are, and you can throw in Notre Dame and Rice to your list. These schools tend to schedule each other for OOC because they have close faculty ties and often hire people from each other (similar experience in recruiting and operations).
Im a B1G fan. Purdue is by far worst right now in the conference.
Shep: Northwestern has said that they want to play teams that are top academic institutions also. There are some top academic institutions who will lower the academic admission standards a lot to get in a football player, but the teams on your list do not. Note that the list doesn’t avoid good football teams (playing Stanford who has been a consistent power) though on the gridiron, Duke has not been outstanding and Vandy is near the bottom of the SEC (academically, Vandy is the top of the SEC). None of these teams at ‘my’ team, but I admire the thinking behind this scheduling.
Yep, very similar schools in terms of academic cache where it is quite feasible that these student athletes could be attending one of the others for graduate school. Just like I think everybody would enjoy a landgrant school pool – Michigan State, Texas A&M, Clemson, and Cal would be nice pairings across the country. You could also have a “State” one – Penn State, LSU, FSU, and ASU.
I’m not in the US so you may need to state the obvious here – why is it interesting to have the schools that were given land play each other? Do these schools have resulting similar cultures or another similar resulting attribute? Thanks.
@dbrunstheworld I’m referring to more of a theme to lean on to generate interesting match-ups, similar to the “State” schools. Many of them share similar attributes, but they’re all vastly different but the pool of schools I chose would be entertaining on the field with one another.
While the ACC has a 8 game conference schedule Duke is in that group of ACC teams which normally play 2 OOC games against P5 opponents. Good to see that sort of scheduling.
Is it true that Northwestern U. does not own any lawn mowers and uses goats to keep their playing field manicured?
That is a big chunk of change for a non conference game. Now that the Big 10 is not allowing it’s members to play FCS teams, it will only continue to drive up the price of OOC opponents since they will be limited to FBS programs
agree, Mark. Play a top-25 1-AA team for $400K, put the rest of the $$ towards professor’s salaries, etc…
Game moved to Sept. 2, Idaho off Nevada schedule. Nevada to get 1.3 million now.
So, the B-10 will pay MAC teams $850K + for games…..then in turn the MAC teams will pay 1-AA teams $300K or so for those games….
Please don’t start writing articles like this. Stick to scheduling.
Whenever there is scheduling news, Kevin, Amy and the gang cover it. This is reasonable content for a slow week.
Thanks for the great article Amy,
Agreed,enjoyed this quite a bit.
My only question is why Georgia Tech is not considered here.
They used the US News Rankings and took the Top 10 FBS-playing Universities. The next few would have been: Wake Forest, Michigan, North Carolina, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Wisconsin, Penn St., Florida, Miami (FL), and Washington.
Because Georgia Tech is not ranked among the Top 25 schools according to USN. Therefore, they do not qualify for this list despite fielding an FBS school.
Re-read the intro again to see the qualifications for being included in this list.
I would find a bottom ranked list interesting as well.
US News doesn’t really rank top-to-bottom. After the top schools, they have Tier 2 and Tier 3, and those aren’t ranked, they’re just all in a bunch.
If you have another slow week, could you expand this to a top 25 list?
Great article and thanks for taking notice of the rivalries between some of the best schools in the country. Northwestern is deliberately scheduling more games against peer schools that share this academic commitment. Our students want to compete both in class and on the field.
No Boston College, No Georgia Tech. I like the premise of the article just don’t agree with all the schools in the article
Apparently you didn’t read the intro to the chart:
“Of the Top 25 schools in the USN National University Rankings, 10 of them field FBS football teams.”
Neither Boston College nor Georgia Tech are ranked in the top 25 school listing, and therefore are not included on this list.
Read the article again, and follow the link to USN to find out where BC and GT rank.
Great concept but completely bogus rankings after the obvious top two, ND and USC. Vanderbilt, Duke and Virginia all have historically weak teams but enjoy high rankings here because they only play each other. Next to Rice, they are clearly the three worst teams on this list by any plausible measure. Only the most ignorant fool would say that Vandy has had a better football team over the years than UCLA! If these two schools had played each other for the past 50 years, I guarantee you that UCLA would have won at least 48 of the 50 games (and the Bruins would have been favored to win all 50, but I’m assuming a couple of upsets).
Here is the correct list, with the schools also divided into three very obvious tiers:
[Big gap here]
[Another gap here]
8-9. Duke-Virginia (take your pick)
As Eric the Wildcat pointed out, Northwestern deserves credit for going out of its way to schedule these games. Since 2012, NU has won five of six (with two other games cancelled), beating Notre Dame, Stanford, Cal, Duke and Vanderbilt while losing the return match vs. Cal. Sadly, after losing to NU in both 2010 and 2012, the cowardly Commodores bought their way out of rematches in 2013 and 2014, in order to play football weaklings Austin Peay and UMass instead.
you need to re-read the article, they didn’t start with fb rankings they started with USN rankings of top 25 schools from academic perspectives, then identified those with an FBS fb team, of which there was only 10, then ranked those 10 by the records against each other.
No Michigan? NU is my favorite as my alma mater, but didn’t beat Michigan a top 20 school.
Michigan is ranked (USNWR) 29 – not in the top 25, as per the stated qualifications
Hard to believe neither West Point, Navy, nor Air Force are included in this list of top “brain schools”
You misread the article.
Actually, Grady has a point. It’s clear that these rankings are derived from a set of National University Rankings that do not include the federal academies, I think Grady’s observation makes sense. Just because the Air Force Academy, West Point, and Annapolis choose not to participate in those ranking systems doesn’t mean they’re not among the very best of collegiate institutions in this country.
Grady makes a good point, but the academies didn’t choose to not be ranked by USN, USN excludes the academies because of their political nomination and appointment criteria. They would certainly be top 25 otherwise as they are in other publications
In what world is Cal a #20 ranked university? It is the #1 public university in the country. Are all of the rest of these private?
Oh, please. The only one of those schools that belongs in a “Brain Bowl” is Stanford.
I root for Stanford, but your comment is laughable.
Great article! How about a Brain Bowl All Star team based on 1st team, 2nd, etc. All-Americans?? Hope to see it here!
Not sure where these academic ranking come from, but of the ranking service MOST used in academics, the ARWU, the top 10 ranked universities in the WORLD for 2016 are:
8. Cal Tech
10. University of Chicago
Notre Dame? 201 – 300 (when you’re *that* low, they start grouping by 100’s, lol)
Calling Notre Dame an “academic institution” is just plain embarrassing. The ONLY two FBS schools in the Top 10 of academics are Stanford & Cal.