3 SEC teams in the same year? I guess they need the cash. I’d bet they’ll get about $2.7M between the 3…
3 SEC teams for Middle Tennessee should be three easy wins for Middle Tennessee!
MTSU has beaten Vandy and Georgia Tech in past years… they’re not chump change. Credit to them stepping up to a schedule befitting a Big XII team! Heh.
If every team in the BigXII played in the SECLeast and scheduled an FCS and two low tier Sun belt or MAC teams they would all be 8-4, 7-5, too.
THere is no truth to this comment, just ask the teams below from the Big-12.
Kansas lost to Ohio
Iowa St lost to N.Iowa
Oklahoma St lost to C. Michigan
Only two SEC East teams played Mac this year, Mizz had E.Michigan which is going bowling & Tenn had Ohio which had a great game in the Mac Championship against W.Mich.
yes, the Blue Raiders are to be taken seriously by any P5 team…
You want truth or stats or records in your arguments? About time. Just try and apply when talking about all conferences, not just the SEC. I do every time. As I post about all schedules. Like true fans do.
The only reason I bring up the SEC is because people like you ( & your alternate personalities) are always bashing them, once again you had to make some bone-ass remark calling the SEC (SECLeast).
The truth is, you only use stats & records when its applies to you & negative about the SEC.
I am not sure how many times & on multiple articles you had to post the SEC OOC record this year to make sure that all saw it, what a shame. True fan……lmao, you’re just a complainer.
I use stats and previous, current or future schedules to illustrate my points. always, except for the first post because now it is fun to get a rise out of SEC Trailer Trash boys. You just don’t like it when it does not fit your narrative.
So that is why you started with the insults about, “If the SEC was easy, it would be called your mom.”
This is why now I am going to bash you at every opportunity because it takes no effort and stats and records don’t lie.
Show me one post that says I said anything about your mom, I am not a name caller nor do I even talk like that.
You have me confused with someone else & on that note I am done replying to your childish insults, name calling & add-ons that you try to make yourself sound funny. Next time before you blame someone for talking about your mom, GET THE PERSON RIGHT!
As a Georgia fan, the 2018 schedule is disappointing. Middle Tennessee is a respectable G5 opponent and the budget dictates 2 guarantee games per year at home, but UMass and Murray State are terrible games. Georgia plays two P5 OOC games most years (GT every year, Clemson in 2013 and 14, UNC in 16, Notre Dame in 17 and 19), but very disappointed about 2018 – I had hoped the last slot would be a quality nuetral site game.
Georgia could be in real trouble if UMass decides to drop back to FCS.
UMass will absolutely still be FBS in 2018. They have 11 games with FBS competition already scheduled. They’ve done their best to fill a schedule, and can pick up a 12th with any regional FCS team. 2019 might get tougher, but they already have 6 FBS contracted, and a game with FCS Maine. What saves them is (1) Bob Kraft likes having UMass games bring folks to Gillette, and then shop at Patriot Place, (2) they have a decent basketball program, and (3) they have the best college marching band in the northeastern US. Clearly, they are hoping the G5’s get raided, because they’d be a great fit in the American to replace schools lost.
David – good information. My original post was too negative about UMass. It’s really the combination of 2 G5 games plus an FCS game that I don’t like on Georgia’s schedule. UMass would be a good fit in the American, which could use another strong basketball program. I do think it is very difficult to stay independent in the long run these days.
I really like the fact that Georgia usually plays 2 P5 OOC’s each year. One of the very few teams in ANY conference that do that.
MTSU can take any P5 school. They gave Alabama a scare both times they played them as well.
Quite the scares, never the less, M. Tenn is a good football team
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This is a cute article, I would’ve kept out A&M vs UTSA since this is their 1st ever meeting.
If you watched the 2014 Georgia Southern @ Georgia Tech game or better yet, if you attended the game, then you would know the ACC referees took the game out of the players hands with a terrible reversal of an ON THE FIELD call (requires indisputable evidence…it’s still being disputed). Georgia Southern was the better team that day and still has the more dynamic roster. Thank you Paul Johnson and the Tech AD for not being scared (UGAg) and rescheduling the Eagles…GS won’t leave it in question this go around. It would be great for the state if GS and Tech continued to schedule a game (maybe a H&H once Paulson Stadium is expanded to 30k) every other year. Athletically, as of late, the two schools are closer to peers than big brother-little brother.
Georgia has played Georgia Southern six times since 1992, Georgia Tech only once. I don’t think Georgia is scared of GS.
Interesting that 5 of those 6 times were when Georgia Southern had 63 scholarships. The 6th game was a carry over from GS’s FCS days and Georgia elected to move the game from 2016 to 2015 probably because they didn’t want an additional year of FBS recruiting for GS. Georgia was gifted that win last year and every dawg fan knows it. For both parties, it is understood that Georgia no longer wants any part in scheduling GS and frankly that’s fine by me.
Don’t worry Kevin Kelly, that’s just GS non-sense talk. They told GSU that they’d never beat GS – but in the just the second meeting (last year) GSU gave them their worst defeat in the history of Paulson High School County Stadium, The glory days of GS are behind them. The newsflash to GS is that they are the #4 team in the state of Georgia and they think that they are #1.
Georgia Tech got up big in that game and then let up and allowed Georgia Southern back in, the Eagles were far from the better team that day.
Georgia Southern’s coach was on his way out and focused on a million dollar salary…way to go. How’d that bowl game work out for the mighty Panthers? Let’s compare some numbers for a minute…17-53 (129th in FBS) vs. 375-200-10 (14th in FBS)…0 D1 National Championships vs. 6 D1 National Championships (most all-time)…0 D1 Conference Titles vs. 11 D1 Conference Titles. WHEW! I can certainly understand why a Panther fan (those exist?) would cling like hell to that win against Georgia Southern! Run along now, let us men get back to it.
GS has never beat UGA – GS has never beat GT – GS is 50/50 against GSU.
So your excuse is that GS got pounded at home by GSU cause your coach was dreaming about a real job? Really? That’s all it took for the mighty Beagles to lose at home? A coach’s daydream? All that tripe that GS spews about GSU and you got pounded in just the second effing year by a five year old football team? Fact is that Richt got fired because he almost lost to GS so that should tell you about how little respect there is for the GS product. So maybe GS needs to realize that they may start to fall behind KSU or Mercer. You guys have such an incredible false sense of entitlement from all those Pee-Wee league trophies. Probably ought to go on back to FCS Pee-Wee league! How about that Capt GAyTAy?
The Real GSU has played UGA and GT once with equal scholarships. Do you understand that having 22 less scholarships is a disadvantage? Once the playing field was made even, the Real GSU lost by a combined 10 points in their first outings with 85 scholarships. Again, I appreciate GT rescheduling the Real GSU unlike UGAg (I bet you’re a UGAg fan before a GAy St fan). Do you understand that when a head coach does not prep their team for a game that the team is unprepared? Big concepts here. Do you have any facts or just opinions? Richt was on the hot seat at the start of that season and the season before that…try to keep up. The fact that you recognize KSU and Mercer says a lot about where you view GAy St. Pee-Wee trophies…you’re talking about Division 1 National Championships. Do you understand that prior to the College Football Playoff, the FCS Playoff was the highest form of a college football playoff in existence? Oh but computers picking two teams worked out every time. The Real GSU should go back to FCS? You mean the Real GSU with the 18-7 FBS record (.720)? How about GAy St with the 7-30 FBS record (.189). This is too easy man, c’mon. (A) Why would GAy St field a football team and (B) why would ANYONE be a fan???? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!
Southern has never beaten Georgia and never will.
The “REAL” GSU just beat the GaSo clown big talkers AGAIN! GAyTAy!!!
So GaSo now has a LOSING record against GSU along with
never beating UGA and GT! So just go STFU !!!!!!!!!!
what about the Brigham Young-Utah State game or the Notre Dame-Navy game?
Neither BYU nor USU are a Power 5. And Notre Dame and Navy aren’t in the same state.
Matt probably meant to say the BYU-Utah game. Utah is a P5, but BYU is not. The summary would read something like this:
When: Saturday, Sept. 10, 5:30pm MT
Where: Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, UT
All-Time Series Leader: Utah, 58-34-4 (62.5%)
Last-Five: Utah, 5-0 (100%)
Utah has dominated its little brother, BYU, over the last 13 meetings (10-3, 77%). And they will certainly do so again this fall.
how would BYU qualify as a “Big” brother?
Bill, Utah would be the big brother
Someone asked that on Twitter, FBSchedules replied “BYU generally considered P5 so not included.”
BYU fits the P5 requirement for scheduling for most if not all conferences. The SEC looks at BYU as a P5…last time I checked the SEC is the premier program in College Football.
good article ….but i would say Georgia Southern has a much better chance of beating Georgia Tech than many of the games you have ranked as more likely. I don’t think very many people would be surprised is Georgia Southern wins that game.
Utah had to be invited to a conference to be considered P5. BYU did it on their own.
BYU is considered by some to be a P5 “for scheduling purposes.” But we’re not actually a P5, since we don’t belong to a P5 conference. That’s why it’s so important for us to get into the Big XII…the fate and viability of our football program rests on it. If we don’t get in and become an actual P5, our future looks no better than that of New Mexico State.
By that thinking, Toledo would also be considered a Power 5 Power Team, since it can beat 1/2 or more of teams from Power 5 Conferences…
Little brother = going on every web site possible to talk about how Utah should really be a big brother
I think ECU is NC State’s big brother when it comes to football.
ECU has not only won 3 out of 5, but 9 out of the last 15.
Go Pirates! Argh!
What about Penn State vs Pitt this year?
Pitt is P5.
PSU is B1G/Power 5 also
I don’t think many Ohio State fans see any MAC schools as “little brother.” The only school that would make sense to have that designation would be U of Cincinnati.
Toledo, Ohio and BGSU, Ohio are both vastly better than Cincinnati, Ohio !!! As is Ohio Bobcats
Where is Alabama-Auburn? Auburn is the ultimate “Little Brother” who lives to beat Big Brother, Alabama. Alabama lives to win national championships; Auburn lives to beat Alabama.
When they say little brother, I think they actually mean LITTLE BROTHER! Auburn is not a little brother to Bama, same conference, same league, Auburn has done their fair share of butt whooping on Bama in the past. If that was the case then the article would have Michigan vs Michigan St.
FSU is also UF’s big brother.
Any news on Kan St, So Caro, BC, NC, and Mia-FL 2016 schedules? And NIU?
Several months ago Kansas St AD was in the media stating the Wildcats were very close to completing their 2016 schedule and would soon announce a home game with a G5 opponent, and once again will not play a P5 OOC opponent. Several months later no announce and not many G5 choices out there, are there?
Will some of these teams end up playing two FCS opponents in 2016?
The following programs will not play a P5 OOC opponent in 2016:
Miss St, WSU, Utah, Arizona, Maryland, Purdue, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas St, AF, and Toledo
Of these Miss St, Utah, Arizona, and Toledo will play BYU.
Maybe Bill Snyder will allow the Wildcats to play BYU in a neutral field game in KC (as Missouri is doing this season)?
BYU only has 1 home game available for 2016, perhaps Kansas could make a road trip to Provo;)
The SEC and ACC consider BYU a P5 team and from the looks of scheduling the Pac 12 does too.
Maybe we all should
The P12 has always played BYU often, this isn’t some new happening like is going on with ACC and SEC who designated them equal to a P5 b/c they don’t want to play actual P5’s. Btw, the ACC and SEC are cowards too scared to play a 9 game conf despite everyone knows it’s asinine with 14 teams in 6-1-1 format b/c you play 6 members just twice in 12 years. The ACC and SEC meantime are in annual battle for playing the most FCS schools each having all 14 teams play one every year.
GofF…It’s Kansas St and not Kansas.
BYU 2016 schedule currently has 5 home, 4 “away”, and 2 “neutral field” games.
I bet the Holmoe would glady trade another home game for a neutral field game, if the revenue and opponent were right. Game would need to be 10/29 or 11/05. Actually, since the Big12 does not have a championship game, BYU vs Kansas State could be played on 12/03.
Or maybe BYU fans would rather settle for a Weber St vs BYU game in Provo?
BYU AD Tom Holmoe has stated BYU will play a minimum six home games per season. Expect an FCS addition.
Yeah I realized I made that mistake after I posted. BYU will not settle for 5 home games, we would rather have an FCS home game than another neutral site game hundreds of miles away so that we can watch our team play. I’m sure K-State fans feel the same way.
I wouldn’t mind if BYU invited Purdue to come to Provo!
Re: The following programs will not play a P5 OOC opponent in 2016:
Miss St, WSU, Utah, Arizona, Maryland, Purdue, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas St, AF, and Toledo
All of the above programs 2016 schedules are full, except for Kansas St.
So a Purdue-BYU game is not happening.
Four P5 programs (Kansas St, South Carolina, Miami-FL, NC), each with FCS programs already on their schedule, have one more non-FCS OOC game to announce
The media had reported NC has added The Citadel to their 2016 schedule, with one more game yet to schedule.
BC has two openings, needing a P5 opponent, and the other game likely a FCS opponent.
So Kansas St and BC are the only two P5 programs, with openings still on their schedule, which have yet to schedule a P5 OOC opponent.
Will NC-BC opt for a non-conference game against each other?
But both, like everyone else, wants a home game.
NIU, with three G5 OOC opponents scheduled, is hoping to schedule a P5 opponent (after Nebraska cancelled), but may have to settle for a G5 or FCS opponent.
Eight P5 programs and 13 G5 programs i(including BYU) still have a slot open for a potential FCS opponent.
Will Florida, Florida St or Stanford opt to play a FCS opponent or schedule a G5 opponent?
It is possible UNLV, Nevada, NM, Boise St, Mass and/or Hawaii will use their ‘Hawaii exception’ to schedule a 13th game?
Waiting to see which of the 26 programs still looking for a game opt for a game with an FCS opponent, versus paying a big guarantee to, or scheduling a 2-for-1 with, a G5 opponent..
Your under some assumption that all conferences are requiring members to play P5’s OOC yearly. B12 nor the ACC has not made any such statement that I know of. The only way all conf are going to go to 9 game conf, to playing 1 p5 OOC and no fcs schools; all which should occur is if the CFP says if a team doesn;t they are ineligible for the playoff. So, teams can choose not to but they also are saying we have no desire to be in the playoff.
I guess I read that wrong!
I’m not under any assumption. I’m just posting some possibilities.
Some lower division P5 programs very much want to play another P5 program in OOC play. But some others have been going to the extreme from doing so, especially if it means playing a home-and-home outside of their region or not getting a seventh game at home. e.g. Kansas State.
The playoff committee should not credit KSU’s strategy, just the same they should not credit many SEC programs scheduling strategies.
I applaud the B1G going to a 9-game conference schedule, and eliminating (minimizing?) games vs FCS. But the B1G needs to go further and mandate a minimum of one game vs a P5 OOC opponent.
The Pac-12 and the Big12 should do the same.
On the other hand P5 programs should be applauded for scheduling perennially strong FCS programs (e.g. North Dakota St).
However I’m unconvinced BYU should qualify as an equivalent of a P5 opponent, when Boise State is not.
I could care less about the programs purposely scheduling weak or want seven home games to provide an opportunity to become bowl eligible in order to earn a marginal bowl invite. But purposely avoiding home-and-home series, and scheduling weak home games in order to have an opportunity to be selected for the playoffs should be rejected by the playoff committee.
And the playoff committee should keep in mind when games are cancelled, and who does the cancelling. For example Texas A&M cancelling on Oregon for 2018. Oregon could still possibly end up playing Wisconsin or Ol’ Miss in 2018, but if that does not happen then the Ducks shouldn’t be punished f they are unable to fill that hole created by the Aggies. (similar to when both Georgia and Kansas St cancelled games with Oregon). Oregon was able to fill the 2019 hole scheduling another one of those so-called “neutral site” games with Auburn. But a home-and-home would have been much preferred.
The B10 is mandating d no FCS and requiring a P5 OOC. There are only a couple not in compliance and the B10 has said they will allow them to honor their contracts, but future years they must have no FCS and a P5 OOC. A few schools have made changes already and gotten out of scheduled games but the B10 isn’t making them break a set contract if they don’t want to.
On scheduling weak. Schools can’t necessarily predict when they are going to have a good year. Look at last year, several typically marginal SEC teams Ole mIss and MIss St were highly ranked at points yet they had weak OOC b/c most years they know they need those games to get to a “marginal” bowl game. To prevent that I say no fcs and required P5 or forfeit CFP eligibility that year, You scheduled cr@p b/c you expected to be mediocre you should not be rewarded.
On cancellation the CFP isn’t going to look into that stuff IMHO. They are not even stern enough not to consider schools like Baylor who haven’t played a p5 in 8+ years while always playing a FCS school. Before the season even started no matter what Baylor did in 2014 I viewed them as a non contender b/c they purposely schedule a garbage OOC and have for a decade.
Schoup said: “The only way all conf are going to go to 9 game conf, to playing 1 p5 OOC and no fcs schools; all which should occur is if the CFP says if a team doesn;t they are ineligible for the playoff. So, teams can choose not to but they also are saying we have no desire to be in the playoff.”
I would support such a policy. But no way that’s going to happen in the near future.
First, the B12 needs to add two programs and play a championship game (they should not receive a waiver from the NCAA on this). Then the next step is ND joining the ACC full-time (Notre Dame should not be receiving any extra advantages as it is currently receiving). Then both the ACC and SEC need go to a 9-game conference schedule.
The next step would then be requiring all members of P5 conferences to play minimum of one P5 OOC opponent per season., and reducing the number of FCS games. I’m not advocating eliminating all FCS games. But programs scheduling weak FCS opponents should have their SOS rating further penalized by the playoff committee.
I agree with all that. On ND they will keep milking it as long as they are allowed. The BCS and now CFP gave them a sweetheart deal. ND isn’t going to turn down an advantage out of the goodness of their heart. Also, in the ACC/ND agreement if ND joins a conference anytime before the end of the agreement it must be the ACC. So if there is more realignment that forces ND hand then the ACC is in the cat bird seat.
ND should really just join as they have tied all their other sports to the ACC. SB Nation had an article months ago about some supposed source saying texas wants to join the ACC when then the B12 tv deal is done and they are talking to convince ND. Texas to ACC actually makes sense as an extra benefit ND would like. ND has made a concerted effort to get to TX often with series with TX and A&M upcoming as well as past neutral site games. They want to recruit Tx just like they make an effort to always get to CA every yrear via USC and Stanford series. The ACC services alot of ND’s major alumni areas.
Indeed, ND is not looking a gif t horse in the mouth. I don’t understand the dynamics of why the ND AD received a spot on the playoff committee and are being catered too so heavily.
Does the ND-ACC football agreement have a renewal date, where ND can decide to go back to being a football independent but at the same time keep its Olympic sports in the ACC? Indeed ND likes Texas country.
Didn’t know about Texas wanting to join the ACC. So when does the B12 TV contract come up for renewal?
So is it possible ND is waiting for a Texas-ACC decision before jumping wholesale into the ACC? With ND having their own TV contract with NBC, are they likely to join the ACC as a full football member? For that to happen the ACC would have to bend over backwards for ND. And Texas has their own ESPN contract, so the ACC would have to bend over for Texas as well.
If Texas decides to dump the Big12 for the ACC, then that would be the end of the Big12 as we know it, and would leave Oklahoma on the outside. I have been presuming Oklahoma is glued to the hip of Texas. So would Oklahoma be more likely to join the Pac-12, as was the well advertised possibility a few years back when it appeared like four schools would break off the Big12 and join the Pac-12? Or would the B1G or SEC be interested in Oklahoma, and vice versa? For Olympic sports, joining the SEC West would likely be the Sooners better move.
And if the B12 is going to lose Texas, possibly causing the collapse of the conference, is it prudent for BYU wanting to join the B12 before the B12 decides its future. Or will BYU hold out for an Pac-12 invite? Or is BYU now happy with their independent status? BYU’s geographic location smack between but outside of both the P12 and B12 regions, doesn’t bode well for their Olympic sports programs traveling. But I don;t see either conference wanting BYU as a football only member.
I believe both the SEC and the ACC will be voting to go 9-game conference schedules in the near future. So that will make it more difficult for BYU to schedule P5 opponents, especially in the last half of the season.
FB Schedules gonna add this as #6 of series that should be played annually
I heard they are making “The Longest Yard,Part 2” with the Bulldogs playing the cons…..*W*
Duke and power conference…..what a joke THAT is!! *LOL*
You could have talked the same trash about Northwestern and Stanford a few years back, and they both built excellent programs. Duke is a little behind them, but has a great chance of catching up.
For the guy that said “Duke and power conference…what a joke” Duke beat Miami, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, and Johnny football barely beat them by 4 points on a miracle Johnny football play, they this year just completely crushed Kansas out of the Big 12 and played their 3rd stringers ha…So unless you don’t consider the SEC and/or the Big 12 as power conferences…then your lack of analyzing information is a “Joke” lol. Might as well throw the Big Ten in there too since Virginia Tech just went into Columbus and beat Ohio State on their home field. Silly Michael. haha