The BYU game will be the second against an FBS opponent for Portland State. The Vikings are also schedule to play at Oregon State on September 2nd.
This schedule came together great. A FCS game to open followed by LSU, Utah, and Wisconsin. Then a bye week before finishing off their season with 9 games. The home slate should also garner great interest for attendance with Utah, Wisconsin, and Boise State on the slate.
It was a good idea to put a warm up game before LSU–just to get the offense in sync. Go Cougars.
Question…..After checking BYU’s sched is there any reason why independent teams don’t schedule gms w each other during champ week? For ex. BYU vs UMASS during champ wk would give teams an xtra bye wk.
Weather combined with lack of alternative game opportunities.
But the BYU-UMass contract has a clause to move the 2017 to December 2 had either gotten a great opportunity for November 18.
If UConn was move to the Big East Olympic/Indy football, I would not be surprised to see in most years UMass-UConn Thanksgiving weekend while BYU plays USC/Stanford and BYU-UMass and BYU-UConn pre-Thanksgiving Championship weekend.
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2022 schedule now has 2 games in Provo and 4 games on the road (not 1 and 5). USF and Baylor in Provo; Utah, Oregon, Boise St., and Stanford on the road.
The TBA Baylor game is in Provo. The 2021 Baylor-BYU game is in Waco, TX.
Thanks for the note! This has been corrected in the copy.
Thanks for the correction, Brian. I’ve always been impressed with this website’s responsiveness to its readers.
With the BYU-Utah extension and the announced BYU-Minnesota series, BYU now has six P5 opponents plus Boise St. in each of the 2020 and 2021 seasons. At least four P5 opponents plus Boise St. every year through 2022.
Most of the P5 opponents are solid programs: Michigan St., LSU, Wisconsin, USC, Stanford, Cal, Utah, Oregon, Baylor, Arizona, Arizona St., Washington, etc.
Washington St., Minnesota and Virginia are probably the weakest P5 programs on the future slate – although each can still provide a good game most years.
2020 and on (for now), the only G5 opponents scheduled are Boise St., Utah St., USF, and NIU. I assume there will plenty more MWC and AAC schools on future schedules; BYU likely doesn’t need as much advanced notice for such series.
It would be nice if this game could be at the end of the season so the Pac-12 doesn’t have 10 teams with conf. games and then one team with a bye or random non-conf game. Like this season USC plays ND the final week, Stanford plays Rice. I get that Pac-12 wants to pump the Utah-Colorado game into a rivalry by having it the final week, which makes sense but Utah-BYU used to be a solid season-ending game
The Pac 12 is reluctantly addressing. Not 2019, 2024, 2025, which are 15 week seasons but all 14 week seasons 2018-2015 feature a BYU closer. As did 2014.
Should be: “Minnesota is also scheduled to host Miami-Ohio and New Mexico State in 2020. BYU is the Gophers first announced non-conference opponent for the 2025 season.”
Should be: “BYU realizes they’re not getting into a P5 conference, slam down their sixth Pepsi in self pity and continue future scheduling. Minnesota, disappointed they cannot add Akron to fulfill their P5 commits, begrudgingly signs deal with BYU.”
The reasoning as to why the B12 got cold on BYU is absurd. The LGBT complained they weren’t getting enough respect, and now that they are, they are now in the business of pooping on other peoples culture. The LGBT protested the inclusion of BYU because of their honor code barring homosexual activity. Last I checked, BYU didn’t allow sexual activity period…….don’t know why the LGBT thinks they are so special. They threw a March Madness tournament because one of their starters slept with his girlfriend. I think it’s silly but it is THEIR culture. It’s THEIR standards. You don’t have to attend if you disagree, but that doesn’t mean they should be shunned just like LGBT people used to be.
At least we know their message of tolerance only applies to themselves and not others.
(Not a BYU fan by the way, but it would be nice to see the B12 get back to the good number, and they were honestly the best grab)
And maybe it’s the conference’s culture to not take so kindly to the magic plates, OH WELL. Cincy and Houston are better grabs as a whole, but I would’ve gone Cincy/Memphis for the markets and dollars.
“Minnesota, disappointed they cannot add Akron to fulfill their P5 commits, begrudgingly signs deal with BYU.”
But when Miss. State schedules (and loses to) BYU it is considered a god OOC game. SEC record vs. P5 thus far is 5-6. Big10 is 8-5.
Shep, Try to stir the pot all you can, but nothing wrong here with Minnesota and BYU getting together. Minnesota only plays three OOC games and have Oregon State, BYU, and Colorado all in the near future. Not always the strongest schedules in the coming years for Minnesota, but it’s nothing like the continuous weak scheduling of many of the SEC programs. Keep stirring.
The SEC doesn’t have ‘weak scheduling.’ They play just as tough a nonconference schedule as anyone else as well as the most difficult conference schedule.
Joe You Are Delusional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“…would’ve gone Memphis for the markets and dollars.” Hahahahahahaha. Idiot.
Trust me, bro…there’s a reason the Big 12 chopped Memphis off the list quick. Try to keep up mang.
Vandy – L – Georgia Tech, 1point W over WKU
Miss. State – L – South Alabama, L – BYU
Mizzou – L – Middle Tennessee State, L – West Virginia
Kentucky – L – Southern Miss
Records vs. P5 Schools
Big 10 – is 8-4.
ACC – 6-6
Pac 12 – 6-4
Big 12 – 4-6
SEC – 5-6
1) Baylor must like the State of Utah, they have the BYU series in ’21, ’22 and then one with Utah in ’23, ’24
2) BYU is now considered a P5 opponent by SEC, ACC, B1G and B12 (P12 doesn’t have OOC SoS requirement … yet)
Yep BYU isn’t ND but they are the best independent in the West and I have always considered them a P5 program. So that’s good news for their school that every conference is treating them like a P5…
I assumed that Baylor and BYU would play–Baylor needing to beef up their schedule and BYU needing teams. Glad that it’s now in writing.
Great series, still an idiot-led league
Love it! Been wanting this game for a while!
The Baylor-Texas Tech game must be moving back to campus. Otherwise, Baylor will only have five home games in 2023.
Wouldn’t it be funny if BYU joins the Big 12 before 2021.
BYU should join the Big 12 yes, but they’d still compete as a football independent through 2020. I’m projecting Boise State, Memphis, Houston, Temple and SMU also joining the Big 12 soon, with the American schools beginning Big 12 football competition right away and the Western schools playing a few seasons as football independents until moving into Big 12 football in 2021, at which point BYU’s scheduled games against Boise State and Baylor get absorbed into that season’s conference schedule. Granted, one other 2021 game for BYU will have to be moved to like 2023 due to the move to a 9-game conference schedule, but BYU will get used to the Big 12.
Strike that, FB Indy through 2022.
Several of the BYU future football series have outs if they join a P5 conference. I don’t recall which ones were revealed through FOIA requests–but there were at least a few.
The subset of agreements with buyouts are very similar to the subset of agreements that are with non-P5s. Even Boise has the out for either program going to a P5 conference.
That would be great but I don’t see the B12 expanding west. I think BYU should try to get an agreement to ply 3 games per year against the P 12 and B 12. That would give them 6 games, the make another agreement with Notre Dame for a season ending game every year when the other conferences are playing their CCG. They can fill in the other five games against quality opponents and have a strong SOS every year. That would make them more attractive to bowl games and the CFB play offs. I don’t see them joining the MWC or the AAC.
Baptist vs Mormons…..Classic!
The Big 12 needs to just add BYU and Cincinnati already and this can be a conference game.
A good series for both programs.
The Big10 and Big 12 are requiring teams play an OC game with at least one team from a P5 conference. Most of the PAC 12 does this already. Basically a 10 game schedule with P5 teams. In the ACC in 2016 only 5 teams play will play 10 games with P5 teams (Clemson FSU UNC Pitt and VT) In the SEC only UGA plays 10 games with P5 teams. ND only plays 9 games with P5 teams.
I hope beginning this year the playoff committee starts taking the 10 game regular season games with P5 teams into consideration as well as the CCG, meaning 11 games for the teams in the CCG..
Tully even though you are right about 10 power 5 games for the Big’s, you fail to mention that the SEC and ACC require members to play at least one OOC Power 5 opponent. Was this an over site or just a hater trying to dis the SEC? I wish the SEC would move to a 9 game schedule but even if they don’t the strength of schedule for the SEC dwarfs most others year in and year out. Alabama. Auburn, Florida and LSU can also claim something that only 2 others (FSU and TOSU) can claim over the past 10 years. How many national titles have the Pac 12 and Big 12 won? ZERO
Nope not an oversight or a hater… I see the trend is 10 games with P5 teams. The Big 10, Big 12 and PAC 12 all play 9 game conference schedules. These conferences consist of 14 teams, 10 teams and 12 teams. The PAC 12 does not have a rule requiring an OOC game with a P5 team, yet almost every PAC 12 team plays at least one OOC game with a P5 team. In 2016 of the PAC 12 teams only WSU will not play an OOC game with a P5 team. And for me I do not care if WSU Wake Forest Kansas Illinois play a P5 team OOC, I do not see them being playoff contenders
The ACC and SEC have 8 game regular seasons, and now are moving to require one OOC game with a P5 team. In 2016 5 teams in the ACC and one team in the SEC will play 10 games with P5 teams. In the ACC chances are the teams which could make a playoff run are among those five. Boston College will only play 8 games with P5 teams.
The NCAA is not going to mandate how conferences schedule,
Given we are talking about independents, and conference with 10, 12 and 14 teams I am suggesting the Playoff Committee use the 10 games with P5 teams in the regular season as a factor, just the same way they should factor in the Big 12 and ND fo not play a CCG. In fact the Big 12 has an extra bye week for 4-6 teams a year. That extra bye week can be an advantage and not playing a 13th game in 14 weeks is also a an advantage. Chances are the conference champions of the ACC, Big 10 and PAC 12 will play 11 games with P5 teams including the CCG.
I do see a 9 game schedule with P5 teams as having an extra bye week. Especially if every year 3 of the four OOC games are all home games with non P5 teams, you know “payoff games”.
In 2016 of the sixty five P5 programs only 27 will not play 10 games with P5 teams. Yes 24 of those are in the ACC and SEC,and ND. If I am on the playoff committee from the PAC 12. Big 10 and even the Big 12 I am making that an issue, just like in 2014 the committee use the lack of a playoff game to keep a Big 12 team out and let tOSU in.
It does nor matter to me how a team gets to 10 games with P5 teams For FSU, Clemson, VT Pitt UNC and UGA they get there with 2 OOC games with P5 teams. At this time in 2017 and 2019 Florida and UGA will be the only teams in the SEC playing 10 regular season games with P5 teams.
The different conferences are going to do what works best for each conference, I think a better question when looking at the playoffs is which programs are not playing at least 10 regular season games with P5 teams. (11 counting CCGS)
Baylor’s OOC scheduling has been been mocked for several years and rightfully so.They are not adding OOC games with P5 teams because they want to. The trend is forcing that change.
UGA a correction to my reply comment. In 2016 GT will also play two OOC games with P5 teams. This means in 2016 only 26 of 65 P5 teams will play 9 or fewer games with P5 teams.
A quick look at 2017 shows again six teams in the ACC will play 10 games with P5 teams, and in the SEC UGA and Florida will play 10 games with P5 teams.
In 2017 in the Big 12 every team will play at least 10 games with P5 teams.
It is very possible as soon as 2017 less than 20 teams will play less than 10 regular season games with P5 teams.
If I am on the playoff committee and the teams from my conference played 11 games including the CCG with P5 teams, yeah I am going to make that an issue compared to teams which only played 10.
When you are a team being considered for a play off spot and one loss can be to many and two losses seems to most certainly be to many, playing only 9 regular season games with P5 teams is an advantage. Playing only 10 games with P5 teams is an advantage over teams playing 11 games with P5 teams. In 2014 FSU played 12 games with P5 teams, counting the CCG before the playoffs
Blah Blah Blah count the Banners. Baylor plays chumps, they do not have any. Alabama. Florida, Auburn and LSU play each other, have many, Beat the SEC then talk all the crap you want Tully Ohio St and FSU are the only dogs in this fight as they have beaten SEC teams in games that count
The playoff committee needs to start seriously penalizing schools wh aren’t scheduling at least 10 regular season games against Power 5 competition. Seriously—SEC, atop scheduling cream puffs and FCS teams in November.
Ryan should we start counting teams like Houston, Cincinnati, BYU as Power 5? I don’t know the answer but it is a fair question. In some seasons Memphis, Bowling Green, Northern Illinois, etc. are solid teams. How do you gauge who is worthy? Any of those schools I typed are better than Maryland, Rutgers. Wake Forest, Illinois and Vanderbilt on a year to year basis. So tell me your plan
Are we sure this isn’t a fledgling BYU-Hawai’i football team that Baylor is scheduling??
Ha ha ha! Or, may be the real announcement lost in the shuffle is that there will be a new BYU-Nauvoo University.
Baylor thought they were signing up Incarnate Word/Utah. Baylor will never be in the national playoff picture.
Seems great for BYU.
When BYU needed to change 2019 date to make another series work, Virginia moved 2020 road date to 2023 but did not ask for an additional game.
Seems like this may have arisen due to Bronco wanting no game this decade. Surprised BYU got an extra home game out of it (and now the first home game in the series)
Tom Holmoe is taking lessons from the Arizona AD.
Sounds like he should’ve taken lessons from the Colorado State AD, this is pretty much a break-even for Virginia.
Article has been corrected, apologies for the mistakes. Was composed in an airport on my phone.
Thanks as always, Kevin.
I have read unconfirmed speculation elsewhere that Virginia will play the extra game at BYU in lieu of paying Bronco’s $1.2M contract buyout.
Wow….Virginia must have really needed to free up that 2019 slot because they sure paid for that change.
Bronco being the former BYU head coach, he voiced he didn’t want to play some of the guys he coached.
This seems like a really lopsided agreement. BYU gets two home games, UVA one, and BYU does not owe Virginia a guarantee for either home game. The only thing I’m getting out of this is that BYU still thinks they can join a P5 conference, and don’t want to tie themselves down into too many more “guarantee” games.
It’s believed this deal was made in lieu of Virginia paying Bronco Mendenhall’s contract buyout.