3 straight SEC West road games for Auburn…@ LSU, @ Arkansas & @Texas A&M. That’s harsh
I would guess CBS starts out 2017 in either Atlanta or Arlington but ESPN sure would love both of them
I hope abc takes florida vs Michigan
Another neutral-site game. I got to be honest, I’m sick of this stuff, especially from the SEC, who seems to be the biggest user/abuser of these match-ups. Why can’t you just play a home-and-home match-up? That’s what college football is all about. Are you that desperate to have an easier win by avoiding a road game? I know Texas Tech is also to blame, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they couldn’t get a home-and-home with Ole Miss.
Isn’t this better than Ole Miss vs. Lamar or Texas Texas Tech vs. Alcorn State? Man take what you can get.
You may of not noticed but the game is in TEXAS. How is it easier win for Ole Miss playing in the state of Texas against Texas Tech? Now that is home field advantage for the Red Raiders, just another excuse to bash the SEC for no reason & of course blame it on the Rebels (sneaking suspicion)……come on, really?
Day, sir, what you don’t seem to understand is that the state of Texas is gigantic. While it may be the same state that TTU is in, Houston is still over 8 hours away from Lubbock and only 30-45 minutes closer than Oxford. Houston is not exactly a TTU hotbed, it goes TAMU, UT, UH, and then everyone else.
I understand how big the state of Texas is, my point is pointing the falseness of making comments like ” Are you that desperate to have an easier win by avoiding a road game? ” How is that an easier win?
“Another neutral-site game. I got to be honest, I’m sick of this stuff, especially from the SEC, who seems to be the biggest user/abuser of these match-ups”
There are 20 neutral site games this year, SEC has 7 of them, one reason is because how popular the SEC is in football but the other neutral site games have nothing to do with SEC, so just don’t watch them I guess.
Why can’t you just play a home-and-home match-up?
Because there is a lot of money in neutral site games plus they’re are easier to schedule & bring fans that pay money to come see them. Big cities love them!
Plus the same people that complain about not having H/n/H don’t even go both games so what’s the point of complaining about an event you are not even going to participate in?
” I know Texas Tech is also to blame, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they couldn’t get a home-and-home with Ole Miss.”
lol…..I luv this one because it says, well, the SEC has a sneaking way of making these games happen. Like TT was going to say NO to a large pay check. Or the city of Houston said, “no, we don’t want more money poring into our city but we will take it if we have too.”
The deal is TT & Ole Miss have a chance to make a lot of money no matter where the game is played, btw, Ole Miss is playing in Orlando this year against FSU, I have heard no complaints from any Rebel fans about having to drive or fly to Florida where they will be out numbered by Seminole fans. Ole Miss is just happy to be there & will enjoy the paycheck plus should have fun in Orlando & who knows, may pick up a win as well.
These “neutral” site games would not be a problem is you played either A.) another power 5 game, or B.) Another conference game.
However, you would rather play Little Sister of the Poor 3 times a year.
Don’t lump all SEC schools together. Auburn is doing a neutral site game with Oregon but they have home and homes with Clemson, Cal and Penn State scheduled.
Auburn could have chosen to do a home-and-home with Oregon in 2018-19 but took the easy way out, avoiding playing a home-and-home in Autzen. Just like Texas A&M and Georgia did. At least Auburn didn’t cancel on Oregon. So Auburn is still in search of a P5 OOC game in 2018. Who are the Tigers going to schedule? Not many choices left out there.
Auburn took the easy road out? Yet the’re are still traveling to California & Pennsylvania , that is not an easy road
So down to Auburn, Vandy and Arkansas as the three final P5 programs, with openings on their 2018 schedule, who have yet to schedule a OOC game versus another P5 program in 2018. So are these three going to schedule each other as non-conference games as Wake Forest and North Carolina have done for 2019? Or just schedule ULL and obtain a waiver from the SEC.
Well, Arkansas was set until Michigan dropped us a month ago.
Auburn & Vandy will play each other in a “non”conference game. Arkansas will get a waiver since Michigan dumped them so late (they play both in the regular season so the non-conference conference game wouldn’t work for them)
As a lifelong Rebel fan I have been waiting 40 years for us to play a PAC 12 or BIG 10 team. Ole Miss has done the BIG 12 to death between home and home series with TX Tech, MO, and TX as well as bowl games against OK, OK State, Texas Tech, & TCU. Not to mention Nebraska when they were in the BIG 12. There must be some hidden rule in our athletic department prohibiting us from playing schools on the west coast. Non-conference home and home series are what makes college football great. We should be playing USC, UCLA, Ohio State, or Michigan State in home and home series. I’m a big fan of Ross Bjork but he totally dropped the ball on this neutral site game with TX Tech
I’m right there with you, Mitch. Who wouldn’t love to see those home and home match-ups? USC played home and homes with Arkansas and Auburn in the 2000s. Those were great games. (But maybe the fact that we dominated each match-up while going 4-0 is why you don’t do schedule teams like us anymore.) However, I think the SEC AD’s, Coaches and the SEC Commissioner care more about the easiest path to the College Football Playoff rather than having the most fair and balanced path to the CFP… And people wonder why fans chant “SEC Bias.”
Sure,go back almost 20yrs & complain about how the SEC does not want to play teams like USC (btw Bama plays them in less then a month). I don’t really think the SEC teams are worried about teams like USC these days. The only people that chant SEC bias is people with to much time on their hands, I rather just enjoy the games & once again. Neutral site games are very popular & they just keep building, they have not taken over h/n/h, just added more excitement to the game.
People forget teams like Ohio State canceling a series with Georgia and Tennessee or Michigan who canceled a series with Arkansas.
Happens all the time…
I have a feeling the people who think this is an SEC problem are only allowed to write in crayon and use a kiddie spoon.
They don’t forget, they just don’t bring it up & if they have to its all about how the SEC does it all the time & you are correct, it happens all the time among ALL conferences.
Joe and Day,
When the SEC does it, they replace the games with scrub Sunbelt and FCS games. When any other conference does it, they replace the games with another one just like it… Stupid argument.
Not true, Bama cancelled the game with Michigan St & filled it it with USC & FSU.
They play only 1, ONE, JUST ONE Power 5 game!!!! They play just 8 conference games!
Historically, there was great equality in college football up until 2006 when college football expanded from 11 games to 12 games. Whereas the Pac 12 (at the time the Pac 10) expanded to 9 conference games, the other conferences stayed at 8 conferences game. In the case of the SEC, they added an extra cupcake game, which is what no other conference did. (You can make the argument that the ACC did too, but there OOC scheduling is harder. The Big 10 on the other hand had a way stronger OOC schedule). On top of all that, the FCS games, which were not often played before 2006, did not count every year to the bowl requirement. Now it does? Why? There should be no reason why a team that went 2-6 in conference games should go to a bowl game just because they went 4-0 against a very weak OOC schedule.
I’m not trying to hate on the SEC. That’s what I want SEC fans to know. However, I want there to be greater schedule balance in the Power 5 conferences. Yes, I understand that the SEC has been up-and-down better than the ACC and Big 10. But what needs to happen in this CFP era so that we get the right teams in the playoff is each team needs to play:
1.) 10 Power 5 games. (I prefer everyone plays 9 conference games and minimum 1 P5 OOC game.)
2.) A championship game.
Only when each P5 conference is put on equal footing will we truly know who deserves to be in the finals.
P.S. ESPN’s SoS metric is so ridiculous. It’s not an accurate description of toughness of schedule. How can a conference (SEC) that has the easiest OOC schedule (which includes 4 OOC games) have the toughest SoS overall? I know! It’s because they have an all but guaranteed 7 more wins by playing 1 less conference game!
I fully agree that home-and-home games at campus stadiums is what makes college football great.
Mississippi St played Oregon in a home and home series in 2003-02. Bulldogs lost both games. So Rebels don’t want to come to Autzen. Just like the Razorbacks don’t want to come to Autzen, just like…
Where is this “Arkansas doesn’t want to come to Autzen” narrative coming from? We only had openings in 2018-19 come up about a month ago. And afaik, neither AD brought up the idea. Some of us fans did.
So what’s Ol Miss going to do to fill their 2017 schedule opening?
For 2017, seven programs still need to schedule an additional FBS opponent:
Florida St*, Missi, Tulane*, San Jose St, FIU*, ULL and Troy
(*Florida St, Tulane and FIU still have two games to schedule in 2017.)
Of course they ALL want home games.
And Arizona is still without a P5 OOC opponent but appears they have not been attempting to schedule one (Wildcats have been consistently purposely scheduling weak).
In 2017 Fresno St, San Diego St, Hawaii, San Jose St and BYU can all play an extra game (Hawaii exemption). But none wish to, as it would take away their only bye game (a valuable rarity).
So in 2017 maybe end up with:
Tulane@Missi (or in Superdome?)
San Jose St@Arizona
Florida doesn’t prefer to play FCS programs and instead typically schedules an additional G5 opponent. And in 2017 I suspect Florida St wants do the same.
Then expect TCU, Arkansas, Kentucky, Miami-FL, Syracuse, Air Force, UNLV, Tulane, and FIU to schedule a game versus a FCS opponent, as they all want home games.
West Michigan, Akron, Ball State, ULM and Coastal Carolina will also likely opt to play FCS opponent as well, as they all want home games.
Let’s be clear, Florida didn’t decide they prefer not to play FCS programs until they lost to Georgia Southern a couple of years ago. Before that they scheduled them yearly like the rest of the SEC.
This is a great match-up & we all should really enjoy it in stead of complaining about would’ve should’ve could’ve about a home n home & what could of been. The deal was made & both these teams will be receiving a nice little pay check. I’m happy for both teams.
Read this article and tell me where I’m wrong that the SEC benefits from playing an 8 game conference schedule compared to a 9 game schedule.
This would be an exciting high scoring affair with two of the top offenses in the NCAA.
good to see Baylor finally making an effort
Great matchup for both teams. Let’s hope Tulane can get to a place where they can win one or two before these games happen.
Who knows by the time the 2021 game comes around ,Tulane along with Cincinnati, could be part of the Big 12 Conference. Still have to believe the Big 12 is looking for and speaking to schools about making their conference whole (12) again. These two mentioned schools in many regards make a lot of sense (tv markets, recruiting in two important states for high school football, and finding something closer for West Virginia).
I think Memphis has to be considered on the Big 12’s list too. Better overall sports program than Tulane and a much larger school.
I was curious when your Pac-12 and Mtn West helmet schedules might be out? Not trying to be pushy, it’s just I love your guys helmet schedule.
Next week or so hopefully!
Sweet thanks Kevin! You do a amazing job.
Let’s see if Stoops will be around for this game. His seat is getting warm.
Seriously Greg? Coach Stoops just took the Sooners to the playoff and is favored to win the Big 12 and return to the playoff and contend for a National Championship. How, pray tell does that and his entire performance as one of the winningest coaches at one of the winningest programs of all time make his seat warm? Either you’re an Oklahoma Sooner hater or you’re high as a kite!…..#OUDNA
Resume the Battle of the Bell and play Southern Miss – especially since they are bad now and Tulane has a good chance at winning!
Bad now??? 2015 CUSA title. What does Tulane have? I’ll tell you what, a 3-9 participation trophy
Why can’t the University of Washington schedule teams like Mississippi, TCU and Auburn? At the same time they have Idaho twice, Easten Washington, North Dakota, Sacramento State twice, Portland State,etc. 11 FCS games in 8 years and 4 games against power 5 schools with Rutgers being two of those. Only Michigan in 2020 and 2021 has any appeal.
Ole MIss & Cal are starting to put some nice looking OOC future schedules together. We will see a lot more PAC-12 & SEC collide during regular season.
Cal’s OOC schedule is pretty good. Ole Miss’ is getting better, but it’s still pretty weak. To get respect when you play 8 conference games, you need to play a tougher OOC schedule (at least 2 Power 5 teams). Thanks!!!
One thing about Ole Miss and Miss State is that I’m guessing they’ll have more trouble getting top P5 teams to go there. They don’t have the prestige of the traditional SEC bluebloods and I don’t think they’re in a hotbed for recruiting (I’m open to being corrected). I know Ole Miss got Texas a couple of years ago but I don’t know how much incentive an Ohio State or USC would have to take a road trip into Starkville or Oxford. They may have to take what they can or play more neutral-site games.
They also have an uphill climb in the SEC as it is, without having to deal with a major OOC foe as well.
You nailed it! Ole Miss & Miss St are a good 8-4 or 9-3 team at best each year or there at the bottom of the SEC with a 3-9 record. Last year these schools had great teams but being in the SEC West they ran into a buzz-saw. Ole Miss & Miss St normally do schedule smaller teams in order to have more wins & make a bowl, in which is better for the conference the school, recruiting & pay. These teams are not that attractive at all when it comes to playing a USC or The Ohio St but if the Mississippi schools keep up these winning ways then they will be but I doubt that will happen due to all the other power houses in the SEC. I luv this match-up cause it gives you PAC-12 vs SEC with two teams that are really never all that hot.
LOL.. I love how you still are spouting the hype of the SEC West…The proved just how overrated they were in their bowl games..Bama beat easily, Ole miss abd Miss St taken behind the wood shed. LSU losing to lowly Notre Dame. Ole Miss and Miss St played garbage OOC guaranteeing 4 wins.
You guys are out of your mind! Ole Miss has to play in division conference games against Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ark, T A&M and the likes of cross division teams like Tennessee, Florida and Georgia. That Western Division SEC Conference is THE juggernaut of ncaa football. They WIPED OSU off the field in the Sugar Bowl and would most likely have been in the National Championship game if Arkansas’ BS fluke play hadn’t gone their way. Rebels had the 4th highest strength of schedule by end of season. Very hard for ANY team in the SEC West to not have a couple of losses.
I like how California is scheduling. Future schedules have either 2 PA or 1 PA plus an upper tier G5 school. The 3rd OCC is against the FCS, but one weaker game as a tune-up is fine.
“It will also mark the first time Ole Miss has faced an opponent from the Pac-12.”
Absolutely pathetic. Get out of your comfort zone, Ole Miss!
This announcement would indicate that they are working on getting out of their comfort zone.
You do know that the SEC and PAC12 haven’t met in a bowl game in I don’t know how long either. For some odd reason. Other than the national championship. There is much more controlling who these teams play than some want to realize. I may be wrong but the universities don’t have much say in which bowl they go to. And yes it is pathetic they haven’t played a PAC12 team. I want to see better OOC games and at the same time I want to see better bowls. At least then, at the end of regular season, we can compare equally ranked teams and truly figure out who the best conference is. But the bowl matchups this past year were absolutely pathetic. Somewhat better than in the past but still a long ways to go. The people with the “say” don’t give two sh*ts about quality matchups in the bowls, all they care about is money. What has been controlling many of the OOC scheduling in the past. But hey can you blame them.
I think this is how OOC scheduling should go for all FBS teams (minimum)
1 P5 team, 1 G5 team, 1 FCS team.
For conferences that play 4 OOC games, it would go:
1/2 P5, 2/1 G5, 1 FCS.
FBS teams should be allowed to play FCS team, as the FCS teams actually benefit from it, but it shouldn’t count towards bowl eligibility, just played as an exhibition game. That means that teams that tend to finish with 5-6 wins each season would stray from scheduling FCS teams, or they would plan an FCS team as a 13th game.
You should have to go 6-5 or 6-6 at worst against the FBS to be bowl eligible, not 5-6.
NO FCS Games. They are worthless and btw dangerous to FCS athletes. Schools with 85 scholarships are playing a school with 63. Even in FBS if you said some teams get 62 and others got 85 scholarships it would create a large disparity, that’s why sanctions like what happened to Penn State and Miami killed their programs when scholarships were reduced. With FCS it’s even worse b/c they are dealing with lesser and smaller athletes in general and fewer scholarships. The games are worthless and all conferences should do what the b10 is doing in phasing them out or be like USC, UCLA, and ND who have never played an FCS school. FCS games are also bad for fans. They pay the same money to see a good game or a worthless FCS game. Schools have many reason to get rid of then as mentioned and another is they are becoming more expensive as schools are wanting 800K for them and the games often don’t sell out .
How True! Washington was one of the last hold outs with no FCS prior to 2011-and then the damn burst with AD Scott Woodward and getting at least one a year scheduled through 2021-twice as many FCS games from 2015-2021 as Power 5 games (8 vs. 4). 2011-Eastern Washington; 2012- Portland State; 2013- Idaho State; 2014-Eastern Wash and Georgia State; 2015-Sacramento State; 2016-Idaho and Portland State; 2017 & 2021-Montana; 2018-North Dakota; 2019-Eastern Wash; 2020; Sacramento State. Only 4 power5 conference OOC games scheduled for 7 years and 2 are against lowly Rutgers.
In 2014, the UW paid GeorgiaState $900,000 to come to Seattle. There were over 5,000 unsold seats @ $ 30 dollars less than for P% games and at least 15,000 no shows for a Saturday afternoon game in 80 degree weather. The Huskies played listless and trailed at the half 14-0 before winning 42-14. The players were unmotivated to play a lesser team, The gate was reduced by a few hundred thousand, the fans were totally uninterested-I could not give my tickets away.
In 2007, Washington’s OOC schedule was- @ Syracuse and @ homw with Boise state and Ohio State. In 2008- BYU, Oklahoma & Notre Dame. 2009-LSU, Idaho, Notre Dame. 2010-BYU, Syracuse & Nebraska.
Fast forward-2014-Hawaii, Eastern washington, Illinois & Georgia State.
2016-Rutgers, Idaho and Portland State. 2017-Rutgers & Montana. 2018- North Dakota (not St.), Nevad and BYU. 2019-Eastern washington, Hawaii, BYU. 2020 Michigan, Sacramento State.
If any one can fin an OOC schedule weaker than that, please advise.
First, FCS games should only be allowed in the spring and at the end of August as pre-season exhibition games – that do not count toward the win-loss record.
Then, all P5 teams should be required to play at least 2 P5 OOC, with at least one on the road or at a neutral site.
The Selection Committee could better compare and rank teams if the P5 conferences play each other more often. The fans would benefit tremendously too.
So, instead of each playing Idaho in a payday home game, USC and Auburn would play EACH OTHER (see 2015).
Instead of playing Georgia Southern, West Virginia and Georgia play EACH OTHER (see 2015, again).
Instead of playing Troy, NC State and Wisconsin or Mississippi St. play EACH OTHER (see 2015).
Agree with no FCS games and I hope other conferences will phase them out like the B10 is doing. They are bad in so many ways. The 2 P5 OOC would be nice but will not happen. The only way you could do it is setting up a system like they do with the ACC/B10 challenge or SEC/B12 challenge in bball. All the schools of the conferences would have to coordinate to specify certain dates for all the games like week 2 or 4 are ACC vs B10 and 3 ad 5 are 12 vs b12 or whatever. Without that level of coordination it would be impossible to assure everybody gets 2 games that fit the right dates. The top programs, if you look at future schedules, are going to 2 P5’s most years and when they don’t they have 2 p5’s they are going with a P5 and a top level mid major.
The first thing I would mandate before 2 p5’s OOC would be everyone play a 9 game conf schedule and 1 P5 at a non neutral site. The ACC and SEC don’t play 9 games which is logistically asinine with 14 teams Those two conferences also play the most FCS games. In the SEC every team plays one and most years the ACC is the same, I think it was 13 of 14 ACC teams played a FCS last year and the SEC was 14 of 14. Next year both are 14 for 14 while the B10 has 7 and the other conferences have 8
The second mandate would be end FCS games.
I think those 2 things would make a huge difference so teams would be playing 10 of 12’s guaranteed vs P5’s. The top programs are already scheduling 2 P5’s. Ending FCS games would also give some of the better midmajors better scheduling opportunities. Some of that is already happening b/c with the B10 phasing out FCS games they are also have more future home and home series with mid majors as they are also reducing their pure pay games. Part of the b10 strategy by their commissioner was playing each other more which was done by 9 games, playing better OOC games and financially reducing pay games which on average in 2013 cost almost 1 mil per game.
WelL it looks like the Sec is starting to schedule home and home series. Nice to see. Need to see more quality matchups like these. Legit. Great for college football.