This is a cute article, I would’ve kept out A&M vs UTSA since this is their 1st ever meeting.
If you watched the 2014 Georgia Southern @ Georgia Tech game or better yet, if you attended the game, then you would know the ACC referees took the game out of the players hands with a terrible reversal of an ON THE FIELD call (requires indisputable evidence…it’s still being disputed). Georgia Southern was the better team that day and still has the more dynamic roster. Thank you Paul Johnson and the Tech AD for not being scared (UGAg) and rescheduling the Eagles…GS won’t leave it in question this go around. It would be great for the state if GS and Tech continued to schedule a game (maybe a H&H once Paulson Stadium is expanded to 30k) every other year. Athletically, as of late, the two schools are closer to peers than big brother-little brother.
Georgia has played Georgia Southern six times since 1992, Georgia Tech only once. I don’t think Georgia is scared of GS.
Interesting that 5 of those 6 times were when Georgia Southern had 63 scholarships. The 6th game was a carry over from GS’s FCS days and Georgia elected to move the game from 2016 to 2015 probably because they didn’t want an additional year of FBS recruiting for GS. Georgia was gifted that win last year and every dawg fan knows it. For both parties, it is understood that Georgia no longer wants any part in scheduling GS and frankly that’s fine by me.
Don’t worry Kevin Kelly, that’s just GS non-sense talk. They told GSU that they’d never beat GS – but in the just the second meeting (last year) GSU gave them their worst defeat in the history of Paulson High School County Stadium, The glory days of GS are behind them. The newsflash to GS is that they are the #4 team in the state of Georgia and they think that they are #1.
Georgia Tech got up big in that game and then let up and allowed Georgia Southern back in, the Eagles were far from the better team that day.
Georgia Southern’s coach was on his way out and focused on a million dollar salary…way to go. How’d that bowl game work out for the mighty Panthers? Let’s compare some numbers for a minute…17-53 (129th in FBS) vs. 375-200-10 (14th in FBS)…0 D1 National Championships vs. 6 D1 National Championships (most all-time)…0 D1 Conference Titles vs. 11 D1 Conference Titles. WHEW! I can certainly understand why a Panther fan (those exist?) would cling like hell to that win against Georgia Southern! Run along now, let us men get back to it.
GS has never beat UGA – GS has never beat GT – GS is 50/50 against GSU.
So your excuse is that GS got pounded at home by GSU cause your coach was dreaming about a real job? Really? That’s all it took for the mighty Beagles to lose at home? A coach’s daydream? All that tripe that GS spews about GSU and you got pounded in just the second effing year by a five year old football team? Fact is that Richt got fired because he almost lost to GS so that should tell you about how little respect there is for the GS product. So maybe GS needs to realize that they may start to fall behind KSU or Mercer. You guys have such an incredible false sense of entitlement from all those Pee-Wee league trophies. Probably ought to go on back to FCS Pee-Wee league! How about that Capt GAyTAy?
The Real GSU has played UGA and GT once with equal scholarships. Do you understand that having 22 less scholarships is a disadvantage? Once the playing field was made even, the Real GSU lost by a combined 10 points in their first outings with 85 scholarships. Again, I appreciate GT rescheduling the Real GSU unlike UGAg (I bet you’re a UGAg fan before a GAy St fan). Do you understand that when a head coach does not prep their team for a game that the team is unprepared? Big concepts here. Do you have any facts or just opinions? Richt was on the hot seat at the start of that season and the season before that…try to keep up. The fact that you recognize KSU and Mercer says a lot about where you view GAy St. Pee-Wee trophies…you’re talking about Division 1 National Championships. Do you understand that prior to the College Football Playoff, the FCS Playoff was the highest form of a college football playoff in existence? Oh but computers picking two teams worked out every time. The Real GSU should go back to FCS? You mean the Real GSU with the 18-7 FBS record (.720)? How about GAy St with the 7-30 FBS record (.189). This is too easy man, c’mon. (A) Why would GAy St field a football team and (B) why would ANYONE be a fan???? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!
Southern has never beaten Georgia and never will.
what about the Brigham Young-Utah State game or the Notre Dame-Navy game?
Neither BYU nor USU are a Power 5. And Notre Dame and Navy aren’t in the same state.
Matt probably meant to say the BYU-Utah game. Utah is a P5, but BYU is not. The summary would read something like this:
When: Saturday, Sept. 10, 5:30pm MT
Where: Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, UT
All-Time Series Leader: Utah, 58-34-4 (62.5%)
Last-Five: Utah, 5-0 (100%)
Utah has dominated its little brother, BYU, over the last 13 meetings (10-3, 77%). And they will certainly do so again this fall.
how would BYU qualify as a “Big” brother?
Bill, Utah would be the big brother
Someone asked that on Twitter, FBSchedules replied “BYU generally considered P5 so not included.”
BYU fits the P5 requirement for scheduling for most if not all conferences. The SEC looks at BYU as a P5…last time I checked the SEC is the premier program in College Football.
good article ….but i would say Georgia Southern has a much better chance of beating Georgia Tech than many of the games you have ranked as more likely. I don’t think very many people would be surprised is Georgia Southern wins that game.
Utah had to be invited to a conference to be considered P5. BYU did it on their own.
BYU is considered by some to be a P5 “for scheduling purposes.” But we’re not actually a P5, since we don’t belong to a P5 conference. That’s why it’s so important for us to get into the Big XII…the fate and viability of our football program rests on it. If we don’t get in and become an actual P5, our future looks no better than that of New Mexico State.
By that thinking, Toledo would also be considered a Power 5 Power Team, since it can beat 1/2 or more of teams from Power 5 Conferences…
Little brother = going on every web site possible to talk about how Utah should really be a big brother
I think ECU is NC State’s big brother when it comes to football.
ECU has not only won 3 out of 5, but 9 out of the last 15.
Go Pirates! Argh!
What about Penn State vs Pitt this year?
Pitt is P5.
PSU is B1G/Power 5 also
I don’t think many Ohio State fans see any MAC schools as “little brother.” The only school that would make sense to have that designation would be U of Cincinnati.
Toledo, Ohio and BGSU, Ohio are both vastly better than Cincinnati, Ohio !!! As is Ohio Bobcats
Looks like the Eagles are setting up double digit win seasons for years to come! Hail Southern! GATA!
They could go undefeated if they scheduled all high school teams! This lines up a great seeding in the FCS playoffs!
Auburn and Clemson are not High Schools Matt butt they will lose both of those and since they are FBS the FCS playoffs don’t mean much for the Eagles. Have you watched college football in the last 2 years?
Matt, nearly every FBS team plays a FCS team each year. It counts towards the 6 needed wins for bowl eligibility. As a FBS team, you would be pretty dumb not to schedule a FCS game each year…at least until it no longer counts towards bowl eligibility. Hail Southern and NO place else!
these could be the only Sun Belt teams bowling this season…Georgia State’s chances are not good and neither are South Alabama’s
Anyone know the payout from the camellia bowl?
A $100 Big Lots gift card and a coupon for buy one get one appetizers at TGI Fridays lol
$100,000 each. And a visit to Cracker Barrel at the Eastchase Mall exit?
Good site for tracking bowl payouts:
great replays. But– I think Geargia Southern receives their gift card from Yellow Wood.
Cracker Barrel is at the Chantilly Blvd. exit, Eastchase is one exit up
Chantilly… urban sprawl name. It’ll always be the Mitylene exit to me…. but it’s at the east end of Eastchase sprawl. Taylor Road exit is at the west end of Eastchase. Same difference. Still doesn’t get us a Poulan WeedEater gift card!
David at least you know what you’re talking about instead of making fun of Montgomery. As as resident of Slapout (that’s right) I can say Montgomery has improved greatly over the past 20 years.
Wow, a GSU QB actually droping back for a pass!
Good for the Commish to get these settled. More opportunity for school’s fans to travel/attend than waiting until a week from now and a bit more than a week before the games. Another big “miss” with these ESPN-only-interested bowls: they are held less than two weeks following the end of the season (except Army/Navy?).
Someone failed to list the Bowl Game for the Georgia Bulldogs. They have been invited and accepted to play in the Toilet Bowl in Flushing, ohio.
i thought that game was Idaho v. Cent. Florida….
Its Central Florida vs Kansas in the Toilet Bowl, battle of the only 0-12 teams
Winner gets EMU
South may get one at 5-7,if they lose their last game.
Hope Chump coaches ’em up about the midline!!
*Waits for the ignorant comments about terrible scheduling
Do try too hard. People will take you seriously
Georgia Southern is aching for another SEC win… The Tigers better be ready.
I like the idea of scheduling home & home games vs other G5’s but it UMASS does gain conference entry in 2018 they will have to move or drop several games. Seems like a bit of a risk to schedule them under those circumstances.
I presume the UMass AD is including in the contract language that if Mass joins a conference Mass can cancel the OOC games without paying a buyout. But I doubt Mass will be joining a conference in 2018.
It will be huge challenge for UMass to complete their 2016 schedule. Right now they still need four home games. And they already have FCS game on their schedule. So attracting four FBS programs to play at UMass, in October and November, will be difficult.
I suspect UMass will cancel football at the end of next season.
There is nothing in the contract stipulating a cancellation if UMass joins a conference. There is a $500,000 buyout unless cancellation is mutual.
You are totally wrong, just so you are aware.
And I mean Jonny is wrong.
Jonny seems to have quite the agenda every time a UMass article comes up on here declaring that the school will cancel football like tomorrow or whatever…UMass isn’t cancelling football. Not happening. The absolute worst-case scenario is a move back to 1-AA, but that’s not happening either, sorry to disappoint.
And for the 100th time UMass needs THREE home games in 2016, not four. The URI game can count as one of their 5 required home games, there is a clause in the NCAA bylaws that would allow it. UMass will only be playing 5 home games a season while independent so they can use Gillette for 1 game and McGuirk for 4.
The problem they’re going to run into is that there are some teams, especially P5 teams, that won’t necessarily want to play at McGuirk. But there are options to fill out 3 homes games in that 2016 schedule, like specifically Buffalo, who we could play at home in 2016 and on the road in 2017. They’ve got the help of this ESPN guy now so with any luck those games can get sorted out soon. They’ll be able to use the Hawaii exemption in 2016 as well, and they’ll probably schedule another road game that pays.
They’ll get into a conference. Since UAB is gone Conference USA would probably take them.
Not likely. C-USA is leaning toward changing the bylaw to a super majority for a non-football member. The sentiment is to give UAB a few years to see if they will bring football back. They don’t like the replacement options, and many like UAB’s academics (Med School) and what they bring for Basketball including conference tournament site. They will kick the can down the road a couple years for now.
The SBC and Idaho look to be parting, possibly Idaho leaving FBS after 2015 (Dennis Dodd made a comment stating that), and there has been no denial for several days from Idaho’s AD. Just silence. I don’t know that this would help UMass, as they present the same outlier problem Idaho does.
Frankly its hard to see any FBS conference that would take UMass in the next five years if not longer. I’m not sure the program will survive beyond the next change in school President
Idaho leaving the Sun Belt and re-joining the Big Sky for all sports would be the best move for that institution (as far as fan interest and geographical sense go). Also, is there no hope of UMass moving back down to FCS and into their old slot in the CAA or have they burned all their bridges with the CAA? That seems like a much better alternative than shuttering the program.
Idaho has no business playing above the Big Sky level. They have pathetic facilities, the 15,500 seat Kibbie Dome resembles a World War 2 aircraft hanger and is never sold out. They have tepid fan support and are hundreds of miles from any population base. The football team’s performance has been a joke now for 60 years and they go on the road each year for body bag games, 84-14 loss at Florida St. 2 years ago as an example.
I agree that C-USA would be less likely than some other options, but if the conference as a whole is waiting for UAB to start football back up again, I think that’s going to be a long wait. Especially given the way the program is viewed by Alabama; as long as UAB’s funding is controlled in Tuscaloosa, I don’t think they’d ever get the program back.
Once C-USA gets settled with Charlotte for a year or two they may look to go to 14 teams. I mean that was the plan all along when Charlotte came up, to have a 14-team football conference. They will want another team for football at some point.
The Sun Belt doesn’t really want another football-only member at this point in time, but if Idaho does in fact drop back to 1-AA, that leaves the Sun Belt at 10 teams. They could go with that since it’s an even number, or they could look to add 2 more teams, even if one is football-only to get to that championship game. I could see them adding UMass and another Southern school that could be looking to make the jump to 1-A at the same time.
UMass is an outlier compared to the rest of the teams currently in the Sun Belt, that is true, but it is nowhere near the type of issue it is with Idaho. Not even close. UMass’ location wouldn’t put the Sun Belt off. Hell, I think UMass is closer to most of the teams than New Mexico State is.
(Also, and this is just me speculating, I could see NMSU leaving to join C-USA if given the chance, giving C-USA 14 teams and leaving the Sun Belt with 9…UMass could definitely get in as football-only at that point).
The interesting thing with NMSU in CUSA is that UTEP is just across the border, so NMSU and UTEP would be ideal travel partners. UTEP is a bit of an outpost right now. If NMSU was better at football, it would be a no-brainer, since their basketball is usually good. Unfortunately NMSU’s football is usually pretty poor.
It hasn’t been since the 1980s that a team dropped from FBS to FCS, when several conferences, among them the Ivy League, as well as a few indies, did so. So I don’t see Idaho going FCS. UMass should join the SBC as a FB-only member, that seems to be the best option now.
ESPN is assisting UMASS fill out the 2016 Schedule – There are plenty of teams still trying to fill out schedules for 2016. The following have a need and plenty of room in OCT/Nov including Akron, Buffalo, Marshall, Air force, Navy, Wake Forest, Purdue, Cincinnati, WKU, Virginia, and more
Is ESPN assisting UMass? Last I read UMass had approached ESPN.
Plenty of teams still need 2016 games but UMass needs only HOME games.
As possibilities I can see WF or Syracuse. All other P5 programs with openings want Home games.
2016 schedules are complete for Virginia Purdue, Navy, Air Force, Akron and W Ky. Cincin, Buffalo and Marshall more likely go with a home game vs FCS.
There maybe a few American and CUSA conference programs which might opt for playing a fourth OOC game at Mass versus a FCS home game. But generally they don’t want to give up a home game if already playing two OOC games on the road.
UMass is gambling scheduling those future games, when at the same time wanting to join another conference. How will they afford those buyouts if joining a conference?
Other programs have injected language into their OOC game contracts that if they change conferences they will not have to pay a buyout. e.g. Texas A&M dropping the series with Oregon.
There is the option of negotiating postponing games to future seasons. That’s probably what would happen if UMass gets into a conference. If they do get into a conference, it probably wouldn’t happen until 2018 at the earliest, and right now they would have to postpone three games. I would assume if there’s a penalty for postponing, it would be cheaper than the buyout.
Jacksonville State University of Alabama would be an excellent choice to replace UAB in Conf. USA or to join the Sun belt to replace Idaho. Although a FCS school they have excellent athlete programs with a beautiful stadium. I hope they are considered to join one of these Conferences.
Can UMass still continue to count games at Gillette as home games?
After all the years Arkansas played ‘home’ games at Little Rock, Bama played ‘home’ games at Birmingham, and Auburn played ‘home’ games in Birmingham (vs. Bama and Tenn) or Columbus (vs. UGa)… where’s the problem with UMass playing in Foxborough?
That stadium is a great place for a game, and Syracuse and WFU and others would benefit from a game there.
Agreed. The Patriots’ reportedly helped BYU get on board for two road games against UMass.
They can. They have a deal with Gillette and the Pats to allow them to play games there rent-free for a period of years in their transition to FBS. The first two seasons they played every game there. This past season and this coming season it will be 3 games in Amherst and 3 at Gillette. Going into being an independent, they’ll only be playing 5 homes games per season, as that allows them to play 4 games at one location and 1 game at the second, as a “neutral site” game. If they scheduled 6 home games they’d be forced to do the 3 and 3. Once they get into a conference they’ll be able to move back to McGuirk, though there will need to be more improvements made to it before a lot of bigger teams would want to come and play there.
The hope is that they’ll be able to play 4 games at McGuirk Stadium in Amherst primarily and 1 game per season in Gillette. In 2016 since they need 3 more home games they might get stuck playing 4 in Gillette, which would be bad for UMass’ program on the whole. But having that one game per season there while they are independent could certainly help with scheduling some P5 teams, who’d be the one game that UMass plays in Foxborough that season.
And going forward, even if they get into a conference, it appears that they’ll be playing one game there per season anyways, as the BYU home games have to be there contractually. Those are 2018 (which is the last season the team is scheduling currently scheduling as an indy) and 2019, when they hope to be in a conference.
GaSo is struggling to get teams outside of the FCS to come to play in Statesboro. And you shouldn’t call them GSU since that is a completely different team entirely!!!
The “two GSUs” situation is the same as the “two USCs” situation, except in the same conference this time which makes it even worse.
Atlanta Mafia that’s what happens when you put up more yards and points on eventual National Champion Alabama than any other school, Beat Florida as a FCS the next season and then go 9-3 your first season in FBS. No one wants to play you because your not a national name yet so a loss to GS looks bad to the average fan who knows no better.