Hard to complain on this, even if you’re against the weak methods of scheduling the SEC traditional performs. Neutral site game against Louisville, followed by three home games against; Arkansas State, UL-La and The Citadel.
Mind you the SEC is not the only conference who has scheduled these teams for home games. As early as last year USC was hosting Arkansas St at home & won 55-6, the whole conference of the ACC has played The Citadel plus a couple have lost to them as well, very tough FCS school. As for La. Lafayette, you got me on that one, SEC luvs playing the Rajun Cajuns but it is equivalent to the BIG playing a team like Ohio from the MAC. Weak methods fall on all conferences you see, Louisville can speak for themselves.
The Tide hosting two SunBelt programs and a FCS program. And a neutral site game vs Louisville. For a power program not an OOC schedule to brag about. Apparently Tide fans enjoy watching such home games.
Will be interesting to see which P5 programs Auburn, Arkansas and Vandy are able to add to their 2018 OOC schedules. Not any other P5 programs which need to add a P5 to their OCC schedule. Notre Dame could add a road game, so maybe an Auburn-ND game in Hotlanta? And BYU needs to add two home games, so Vand@BYU is plausible.
Arkansas could set up a 2018-19 series with Michigan (joke). The Razorbacks must feel like Oregon, when Texas A&M cancelled the series with the Ducks, and thus the Ducks ended up with scheduling a neutral site game with Auburn and hosting San Jose St. Too bad Oregon won’t cancel that neutral site game and instead go with a home-and-home with the Razorbacks.
Home-and-home on campus games helped define college football.
Meanwhile, the story about Arizona scheduling two FCS teams posted on this site two complete days prior to this one still doesn’t have a comment about how pathetic Arizona is based on their out-of-conference scheduling.
It’s okay to schedule like this when you are in an also-ran conference like the Pac 12, but not when you’re in the SEC and playing the best teams in the country in conference?
Have to give Alabama a lot of credit, they truly have mastered their scheduling. They play 3 cupcakes and a good, not great power 5 every year (and to be fair, playing a decent Power 5 team is a lot better than most teams). What they do so well though is play a team with good name recognition but is oftentimes in a down-year (i.e. VTech in 2013, WV in 2014, Wisc in 2015 and again with USC in 2016). Looking ahead to 2018, Louisville will likely be in rebuild mode after a couple really good years and Alabama will catch them at the right time. It is a great way for them to continue their reputation as a powerhouse yet not over-expose themselves in the non-conference.
Actually Bama has 4 cupcakes on the schedule this year with USC, 52-6, W.Kentucky put up a bigger fight. I don’t think it Bama’s fault when they play a P5 school that is having a down year, you never know how these teams are going to look year in & year out. There is something about Magic Nick’s hiring of coaches & the players that he recruits that just seem to click, even when I think Bama has a chance of losing 2-3 games a year, I find them in the hunt for the SEC championship & two years straight for the CFP’s. Bama scheduled Louisville before this season even started, who knew Louisville would be this good, Bama scheduled FSU while they were winning a NC, USC has not been that hot over the years & was very hyped up this one. Wisconsin has been good for many years in the BIG. I understand where you are coming from you are correct, a mastering program that knows how to coach, hire coaches & staff, recruit players, go out of state to recruit players, know where to add smaller teams on the schedule for wins. It is an art, at one point Pete Carroll had it at USC, Bo had it at Michigan, Bear had it at Bama, Urban Myer has it everywhere he goes. As for the 3 cupcakes, games still have to be coached, players still get injured, plays still have to be called, teams still have to show up. Over all you are correct though, much credit due.
Joe, I think the reason Arizona didn’t get any mention was that in the two years the Wildcats scheduled FCS teams they already had P5 Texas Tech scheduled for OOC games as well. Hard to find fought in having one of your three OOC games being a home-n-away series with a P5 Texas Tech, whereas Bama has a neutral site P5 game against Louisville (which is good) and THREE non-P5 OOC games. The numbers don’t show strength. Take a chill pill and try to see the whole picture.
Vandy – L – Georgia Tech, 1point W over WKU
Miss. State – L – South Alabama, L – BYU
Mizzou – L – Middle Tennessee State, L – West Virginia
Kentucky – L – Southern Miss
SEC is currently 5-6 vs. P5 schools (including BYU, which SEC allows as a P5)
Big 10 – is 8-4.
ACC – 6-6
Pac 12 – 6-4
Big 12 – 4-6
9 conference games, SEC and ACC. Get on it.
Conference games don’t matter as much as playing quality opponents. The playoff committee has already decided that. That’s why they Big 12 is adding teams and a championship game. If 9 conference games mattered, they would stand pat.
Some programs need to schedule for the College Football Playoff. Some teams need to schedule for bowl eligibility.
Another week almost in the books and the other conferences are all losing games to teams in non-Power 5 conferences. In the ACC, Virginia lost to Connecticut. Syracuse lost to South Florida. In the Big 12, Kansas lost to Memphis. In the Big Ten, Iowa lost to FCS member North Dakota State. Illinois lost to Western Michigan. Meanwhile in the SEC, they just keep winning.
This is exactly why playing nine conference games really doesn’t matter.
14 teams. There were four conference games, and six non-conference games. The S.E.C. went 5-1, with home wins against North Texas, New Mexico State, Ohio, Texas State, and East Carolina. There was one game against a Power 5 school – a loss to Georgia Tech.
The argument by SEC haters is that playing nine conference games matters because it adds an extra game against a team from a Power 5 conference to your schedule.
My argument has been that not all Power 5 teams are created equal and not all non-Power 5 teams are, either.
Yesterday supports my argument.
Are games against teams from the Power 5 more difficult? Absolutely. But there are games against teams outside the Power 5 that may be just as difficult. You can’t judge a schedule simply by the number of Power 5 teams on it, you have to look at the quality of the opponents. And it is here that the SEC distances itself from the pack. The SEC typically plays a more difficult conference schedule with only eight games than most other conferences do in nine. It’s just a fact. Playing Mississippi, LSU, Auburn, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, and A&M is a tougher slate than playing Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue, and Penn State. It just is.
Thankfully, the playoff committee understands this.
When you are a Power 5 team that can’t beat Illinois State, Western Michigan, Northern Iowa, or Richmond, you can’t be considered a tough conference game simply because you play in a Power 5 conference.
At this point just add Western Michigan to the BIG, if they can beat N’western & Illinois then anybody can. They’re are some G5 & FCS that clearly show they can hang with the big dogs but some just don’t wan to see that, they call them cupcakes. Yet, the SEC has not lost to any of these, that is why the chat is quiet, if even Vandy lost to W.Michigan these chats would be blown up with how the SEC sucks.
You’re right. The top of the MAC is clearly as good as the middle of the Big Ten. Iowa was in the Big Ten Championship five games back and they just lost to an FCS team. A good FCS team, but an FCS team nonetheless.
I get Kansas losing to someone like that. Washington State is understandable. Heck, even Richmond beating Virginia makes sense to a degree… but for the number two team in the Big Ten a year ago to lose to an FCS team proves just how far that league has fallen.
Can’t wait for kickoff! #funbelt
That ASU – Southern Cal game could be a land mine game….
That’s cool that 2 rivalry games (ULL/ULM, Idh/NMSU) will be played on Haloween
why did Idaho ever get an invite to this conference? they add nothing, are an expensive plane ride away to play in a cavernous air plane hanger in front of a paltry crowd of just a few thousand. they lose 8-11 games with regularity. Their basketball team this years averages 900 fans per home game-less than any decent high school.
Remember they’re a football-only team in the Sun Belt. They’re in the Big sky for all other sports
Dennis Dodd is saying 2015 is Idaho’s last year in FBS.
It looks like the Vandals don’t have the votes to stay in the Belt (need 7 of the 9 permanent FB members) because it doesn’t make sense to anybody in the Belt. Rob Spear went around pleading for the Big Sky to move up schools two weeks ago, but nobody was biting – I think he knew he needed some company to stay in FBS. So expect Spear to jump in front of the parade and announce they are moving to the Big Sky for Football before they can be dumped next January/February.
So you may get your wish.